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Trump says 'shooter apprehended' after president rushed from White House Correspondents' Dinner

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  • V village604@adultswim.fan

    The ear shot was faked.

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    sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    #95

    No, it wasn't.

    People died and were injured, from bullets, fired at Trump, who were behind him in the crowd.

    The shooter had his head evacuated by countersnipers.

    Trump just got lucky, turned his head at an angle where the bullet just barely knicked the top of his ear.

    If you want a recent shooting that did not play out as advertised, you're looking for the Kirk shooting, not Trump at Butler PA.

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    • W wizardoffrobozz@lemmy.ca

      Get ready for a week of all the most insufferable liberals you know wringing their hands about how it’s SO UNCOUTH to be disappointed he didn’t bite it, while all Democratic elected officials fall all over themselves to announce that “political violence has no place” in your country 🙄

      Edit: oh, look, clown shit

      I swear to Christ you people deserve whatever you get.

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      beardededsquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      #96

      The right has NORMALIZED political violence and blare out the pacifist bullshit to make it look unacceptable for anyone not them to do it. Protest and picket lines mean nothing if violence isn't considered a step in the chain somewhere. The GQP have shown us this by demanding special protest zones around their events so people can't just rush in or be heard.

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      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        Hehe, there's a reason I went with the BBC.

        finger guns, winks

        No wait!

        is shot and then tackled by Secret Service

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        beardededsquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        #97

        Nah, they wouldn't shoot you, they'd love an opportunity for you to "commit suicide" in a cell.

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        • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

          No, it wasn't.

          People died and were injured, from bullets, fired at Trump, who were behind him in the crowd.

          The shooter had his head evacuated by countersnipers.

          Trump just got lucky, turned his head at an angle where the bullet just barely knicked the top of his ear.

          If you want a recent shooting that did not play out as advertised, you're looking for the Kirk shooting, not Trump at Butler PA.

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          takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Yeah and also trump is covering and can grow his ear back so there is no sign of anything happen.

          All they need is to convince some mentally ill person that he will is part of secret program to protect trump and get him there with blanks.

          Then have someone shot into the crowd to add realism.

          Oh and if you think they wouldn't hurt innocent people you've been living under a rock for the past 10 years.

          putin (biggest beneficiary of the current US foreign policy) murdered 300 people and injured over 1,000 (in apartment bombings) to get elected.

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          • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

            he's working up to Adolf Hitler's number of 42 plots.

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            tigerace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            #99

            42 is the answer to everything. I'm glad Hitler succeeded in what the others failed to do: kill Hitler. Just a bit late though. Doing it after getting rejected from art school would have been better.

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            • T takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com

              Yeah and also trump is covering and can grow his ear back so there is no sign of anything happen.

              All they need is to convince some mentally ill person that he will is part of secret program to protect trump and get him there with blanks.

              Then have someone shot into the crowd to add realism.

              Oh and if you think they wouldn't hurt innocent people you've been living under a rock for the past 10 years.

              putin (biggest beneficiary of the current US foreign policy) murdered 300 people and injured over 1,000 (in apartment bombings) to get elected.

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              #100

              I truly do not know why or how so many people struggle with the concept of a shallow graze injury from a bullet, to an ear, that has an absolute ton of easily broken capillaries, especially a near 80 year old ear.

              Its honestly entirely possible this shooting at the Press Dinner had some MK Ultra bs going on, the dude was psyop'd into it.

              That wouldn't surprise me at all.

              It wouldn't surprise me if they knew this guy was coming, that he planned to do this, and they just figured they could stop him, and it would somehow be advantageous for them to go with that.

              ... But I also don't like to confidently state things I do not know to be true.

              Produce evidence there was a shooter in the crowd at Butler, and I'll look at it.

              Other than that: Anybody can just say shit confidently.

              This is typically called being a con artist.

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              • G givesomefucks@lemmy.world

                you’d have encountered people who don’t use the cable news definition.

                What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

                "Cable news definition"?

                We're talking about using the "definition" from after the invention of modern democracy centuries ago

                I don't know if you're fucking with me or legitimately this confident yet consistently wrong

                At this point it doesn't fucking matter tho.

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                alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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                #101

                We’re talking about using the “definition” from after the invention of modern democracy centuries ago

                I gave you a book going over how its been used since the French revolution.

                Here's Huey P Newton making the same exact observation: https://redsails.org/the-pitfalls-of-liberalism/

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                • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                  I truly do not know why or how so many people struggle with the concept of a shallow graze injury from a bullet, to an ear, that has an absolute ton of easily broken capillaries, especially a near 80 year old ear.

                  Its honestly entirely possible this shooting at the Press Dinner had some MK Ultra bs going on, the dude was psyop'd into it.

                  That wouldn't surprise me at all.

                  It wouldn't surprise me if they knew this guy was coming, that he planned to do this, and they just figured they could stop him, and it would somehow be advantageous for them to go with that.

                  ... But I also don't like to confidently state things I do not know to be true.

                  Produce evidence there was a shooter in the crowd at Butler, and I'll look at it.

                  Other than that: Anybody can just say shit confidently.

                  This is typically called being a con artist.

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                  village604@adultswim.fan
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                  #102

                  Because those types of wounds take forever to heal in a geriatric.

                  His ear cartilage would almost certainly have been shattered by a bullet, but even if it wasn't his ear would be purple for weeks.

                  Plus, there's no way secret service would let him stand back up for his photo op. And Trump is such a scared baby that there's no way he would have stood back up if there was an active shooter. This is the dude who hid in a bunker because there was a protest outside.

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                  • G givesomefucks@lemmy.world

                    you’d have encountered people who don’t use the cable news definition.

                    What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

                    "Cable news definition"?

                    We're talking about using the "definition" from after the invention of modern democracy centuries ago

                    I don't know if you're fucking with me or legitimately this confident yet consistently wrong

                    At this point it doesn't fucking matter tho.

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                    alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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                    Seriously tho, read Huey P Newton's essay, it should be required reading for anyone who doesn't understand what happened in 2020.

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                    • V village604@adultswim.fan

                      Because those types of wounds take forever to heal in a geriatric.

                      His ear cartilage would almost certainly have been shattered by a bullet, but even if it wasn't his ear would be purple for weeks.

                      Plus, there's no way secret service would let him stand back up for his photo op. And Trump is such a scared baby that there's no way he would have stood back up if there was an active shooter. This is the dude who hid in a bunker because there was a protest outside.

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                      #104

                      Why would his ear cartilidge have been shattered if the bullet just grazed over the top of the helix of his ear?

                      https://xcancel.com/David_Leavitt/status/1817386288749633869

                      2 weeks after the shooting:

                      The helix of his ear is perhaps uncommon in that it is nearly flat when viewed from side on, where most people's ear's helix are more convex, more curved.

                      The bullet did not actually punch through any part of his ear.

                      The shooter was at an elevation barely any higher that the elevation Trump was standing at on a raised platform, so the shot came from his from his from right, essentially flat trajectory.

                      The bullet barely grazed the section of his ear that is here, 2 weeks later, still showing a bunch of burst capillaries.

                      Its essentially a serious abrasion wound, not a puncture or blunt impact wound.

                      This is what you would expect from essentinally holding a drill bit covered in ~160 grit sand paper, rotating at ~280,000 rpm, just barely touching your ear, for a tiny fraction of a second.

                      The images from during the shooting are 100% consistent with this area as the origin point for the blood that streamed down his ear and parts of his face.

                      Blood trickles downward, thanks to gravity, and covered portions of his ear, that many people seem to think are parts of his ear that got totally obliterated, punched out, by the bullet.

                      But that isn't what happened.

                      You could see by day 7 that no major portion of the interior of his ear had been obliterated.

                      https://www.tmz.com/2024/07/20/donald-trump-rally-bandage-bandaid-bullet-injured/

                      One week after the shooting:

                      Had the interior of his ear been punched out, he'd still be wearing a very large bandage covering much of his ear, to prevent potential infection getting into the punched out hole.

                      But there was no punched out hole, so this was not necessary.


                      Also, his ear would not have been entirely purple from the scenario I am describing.

                      That is what you would expect if somebody gave a left hook to his ear, or smacked it with an almanac or something like that: a blunt force injury across the entire ear, that would have broken so many capillaries that he'd have blood pooling internally (ie, bruising) throughout the ear.

                      ... but that is not what happened.


                      As to him not standing up... Trump would have been able to hear the much closer to him counter sniper firing off rounds toward the would be assasin.

                      He's a showman. Wants to be famous, wants to be admired, knows the value of good PR, even if his idea of what constitutes good PR is quite often deranged.

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