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Trump says 'shooter apprehended' after president rushed from White House Correspondents' Dinner

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    Pretty sure this would be more like attempt 6.

    EDIT:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots?wprov=sfla1

    Fuck, way more than 6.

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    mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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    “There is absolutely no place for politically motivated violence in the United States of America,” assistant US attorney Michael Friedman told Friedrich.

    weird, maybe you guys should stop the administration from perpetrating a ton of politically motivated violence, then, instead of going after those merely reacting to it

    (from the article of the Canadian-French (not french-canadian) woman)

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    • W wewbull@feddit.uk

      Having seen other "rush the president away" situations, it's always been the secret service dudes in black suits defending him. When did he start taking a military force in full tactical gear to dinner? It's not like they were hiding behind the scenes. They just took a few side steps to form a human wall in front of the secret service.

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      sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      #82

      Basically everywhere every President has ever been in at least the last ~30 years, they're shadowed by the suited Secret Service, the obvious, visual security, and a or multiple tactical response teams, essentially SWAT teams, just in case something like this happens.

      They were in fact hiding behind the scenes, ready to jump into action if needed.

      That's actually just normal Presidential security detail, what isn't normal is when the President is moving about or planning public appearances so suddenly that there isn't enough time to properly draft up a security plan and get people in place.


      Thats a big part of why the Butler Penn Ear Zinger ended up happening:

      Firstly, Trump wasn't the President, so, less assigned security importance.

      Secondly, the Trump Campaign has a history of stiffing the bill and not actually properly paying venues that he appears at, so a lot of event venues refuse to work with him.

      Thirdly, Trump Campaign events are often announced and planned last minute, not enough time to actually draft up and implement a proper security plan, partially because of thing 2.

      Finally, its well documented that the security coordination at Butler was a shit show. You had Secret Service, and a variety of local and regional police outfits, half of them didn't know who was supposed to be where, doing what.

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      • lemmyng@lemmy.worldL lemmyng@lemmy.world

        *ballroom = bunker

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        westerninfidels@feddit.online
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        Work on the bunker part got the green light, though.

        On Thursday, the judge ruled that the Administration has to stop all aboveground work on the construction project until it receives Congressional approval. But his order permits the White House to continue construction underground, including on the military complex.

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        • P psycho_driver@lemmy.world

          They flew in some old gal from Arkansas that looked like half chewed beef jerky who (if she actually was a door dash lady) was old enough that she should be retired but obviously couldn't get by without having to work for door dash during her golden years so that she could gush over how wonderful it was that her tips weren't getting taxed.

          It came out that they'd used the same lady as a prop at some other political circle jerk in the months prior.

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          pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works
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          #84

          I'd totally missed this story, OMG. Fucking incredible. Thanks for the summary.

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          • W westerninfidels@feddit.online

            The shooting tonight at the Washington Hilton demonstrates the need to have a White House ballroom, President Trump tells reporters in the press briefing room.

            So he's taking this opportunity to whine about his ballroom. As one does. Perfectly normal. "An awful lot of Americans seem to want me dead, that's why I need a party fortress!"

            The WHCD is a private event, no affiliation with the government. It presumably would never happen at a White House ballroom.

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            the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
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            The real reason is he thinks he'd look really pretty in a gown. He's not a cross dresser, he just wants all the attention all the time.

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            • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              • Donald Trump is rushed from the White House Correspondents' Dinner after suspected gunshots heard

              • Attendees of the dinner ducked under tables amid scenes of widespread confusion during the incident, our Washington correspondent reports from the event

              • A shooter has been taken into custody, Trump writes on Truth Social

              Story is developing in real time, check the actual link for more details, images and videos.


              EDIT:

              I flipped to CSPAN; apparently Trump is going to be doing a press conference at the White House in ~30 minutes, all cabinet members are uninjured, as well as seemingly all other guests, and the Correspondents' Dinner is going to be rescheduled within 30 days.


              EDIT 2, from the 'article':

              Still not clear what happened

              published at 20:48

              Bernd Debusmann Jr

              White House reporter, reporting from dinner


              We still have no official confirmation of what took place.

              But Fox News reporter Jacqui Heinrich, a member of the White House Correspondent's Association's board, posted on X that they've been told that an individual attempted to pass through metal detectors with a gun.

              President Trump, according to Heinrich, was held in a nearby room and wanted the dinner to continue, though he just posted on social media that law enforcement have asked him to leave.


              EDIT 3:

              Trump has posted a video and two pictures of the assailant to his Truth Social.

              Video (Seems like a smartphone aimed at security camera monitor):

              https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116468650367386223

              Pic 1:

              https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116468652052256305

              Pic 2:

              https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116468652963767750

              The man appears to have bum rushed through the metal detector area at a full sprint, but was stopped by a volley of shots from different security personnel.

              ... and apparently, according to Trump just now at the press conference, the guy shot one Secret Service agent, but he was wearing body armor, and is apparently not badly injured.

              This can be seen in the video, the srcurity guy center frame appears to be shot in the lower abdomen, then quickly draws his weapon and begins firing at the now out of frame assailant, who sprinted past.

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              fatvegan@leminal.space
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              Trump says...: so it's a fucking lie

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              • G gonzako@lemmy.world

                She's an actor they pull up every now and then

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                sgforce@lemmy.ca
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                Thought she was technically a lobbyist for doordash's push for the "no tax on tips* scheme.

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                • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                  Pretty sure this would be more like attempt 6.

                  EDIT:

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots?wprov=sfla1

                  Fuck, way more than 6.

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                  savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                  #88

                  he's working up to Adolf Hitler's number of 42 plots.

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                  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                    • Donald Trump is rushed from the White House Correspondents' Dinner after suspected gunshots heard

                    • Attendees of the dinner ducked under tables amid scenes of widespread confusion during the incident, our Washington correspondent reports from the event

                    • A shooter has been taken into custody, Trump writes on Truth Social

                    Story is developing in real time, check the actual link for more details, images and videos.


                    EDIT:

                    I flipped to CSPAN; apparently Trump is going to be doing a press conference at the White House in ~30 minutes, all cabinet members are uninjured, as well as seemingly all other guests, and the Correspondents' Dinner is going to be rescheduled within 30 days.


                    EDIT 2, from the 'article':

                    Still not clear what happened

                    published at 20:48

                    Bernd Debusmann Jr

                    White House reporter, reporting from dinner


                    We still have no official confirmation of what took place.

                    But Fox News reporter Jacqui Heinrich, a member of the White House Correspondent's Association's board, posted on X that they've been told that an individual attempted to pass through metal detectors with a gun.

                    President Trump, according to Heinrich, was held in a nearby room and wanted the dinner to continue, though he just posted on social media that law enforcement have asked him to leave.


                    EDIT 3:

                    Trump has posted a video and two pictures of the assailant to his Truth Social.

                    Video (Seems like a smartphone aimed at security camera monitor):

                    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116468650367386223

                    Pic 1:

                    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116468652052256305

                    Pic 2:

                    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116468652963767750

                    The man appears to have bum rushed through the metal detector area at a full sprint, but was stopped by a volley of shots from different security personnel.

                    ... and apparently, according to Trump just now at the press conference, the guy shot one Secret Service agent, but he was wearing body armor, and is apparently not badly injured.

                    This can be seen in the video, the srcurity guy center frame appears to be shot in the lower abdomen, then quickly draws his weapon and begins firing at the now out of frame assailant, who sprinted past.

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                    formfiller@lemmy.world
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                    Shooter was IDF

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                    • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                      he's working up to Adolf Hitler's number of 42 plots.

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                      village604@adultswim.fan
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                      #90

                      I hope that's not where Adams got the number from.

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                      • P psycho_driver@lemmy.world

                        Are all of these shooters going to Storm Trooper training academy or something?

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                        samskara@sh.itjust.works
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                        Stress and adrenaline can make it hard to focus, aim, and shoot properly. The shooter might be shaking.

                        It takes considerable training to stay calm in high pressure situations like this.

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                        • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          Basically everywhere every President has ever been in at least the last ~30 years, they're shadowed by the suited Secret Service, the obvious, visual security, and a or multiple tactical response teams, essentially SWAT teams, just in case something like this happens.

                          They were in fact hiding behind the scenes, ready to jump into action if needed.

                          That's actually just normal Presidential security detail, what isn't normal is when the President is moving about or planning public appearances so suddenly that there isn't enough time to properly draft up a security plan and get people in place.


                          Thats a big part of why the Butler Penn Ear Zinger ended up happening:

                          Firstly, Trump wasn't the President, so, less assigned security importance.

                          Secondly, the Trump Campaign has a history of stiffing the bill and not actually properly paying venues that he appears at, so a lot of event venues refuse to work with him.

                          Thirdly, Trump Campaign events are often announced and planned last minute, not enough time to actually draft up and implement a proper security plan, partially because of thing 2.

                          Finally, its well documented that the security coordination at Butler was a shit show. You had Secret Service, and a variety of local and regional police outfits, half of them didn't know who was supposed to be where, doing what.

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                          village604@adultswim.fan
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                          The ear shot was faked.

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                          • I i_has_a_hat@lemmy.world

                            It's easy to have the highest number of attempted assassinations when you repeatedly stage them.

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                            liuther9@lemmy.world
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                            I was downvoted for this. Another assassination before important voting...

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                            • F fortytwo@lemmy.world

                              That was my first reaction too. I usually try to stop myself from falling into conspiracy thinking, but in this case it's hard to do when a few days prior the Internet has been full with an alleged memo with plans to stage something dramatic for the press at this specific event.

                              Can't rule out a real attack but at this point I wouldn't exactly say it's the option with the highest probability for this government filled with tv personalities at record low popularity...

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                              socsa@piefed.social
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                              In this case it's extremely transparent. His polling is in the dumpster, and they last time someone "shot at him" started a long reversal in that fortune.

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                              • V village604@adultswim.fan

                                The ear shot was faked.

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                                sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                wrote last edited by sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                #95

                                No, it wasn't.

                                People died and were injured, from bullets, fired at Trump, who were behind him in the crowd.

                                The shooter had his head evacuated by countersnipers.

                                Trump just got lucky, turned his head at an angle where the bullet just barely knicked the top of his ear.

                                If you want a recent shooting that did not play out as advertised, you're looking for the Kirk shooting, not Trump at Butler PA.

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                                • W wizardoffrobozz@lemmy.ca

                                  Get ready for a week of all the most insufferable liberals you know wringing their hands about how it’s SO UNCOUTH to be disappointed he didn’t bite it, while all Democratic elected officials fall all over themselves to announce that “political violence has no place” in your country 🙄

                                  Edit: oh, look, clown shit

                                  I swear to Christ you people deserve whatever you get.

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                                  beardededsquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                  The right has NORMALIZED political violence and blare out the pacifist bullshit to make it look unacceptable for anyone not them to do it. Protest and picket lines mean nothing if violence isn't considered a step in the chain somewhere. The GQP have shown us this by demanding special protest zones around their events so people can't just rush in or be heard.

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                                  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                    Hehe, there's a reason I went with the BBC.

                                    finger guns, winks

                                    No wait!

                                    is shot and then tackled by Secret Service

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                                    beardededsquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    Nah, they wouldn't shoot you, they'd love an opportunity for you to "commit suicide" in a cell.

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                                    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      No, it wasn't.

                                      People died and were injured, from bullets, fired at Trump, who were behind him in the crowd.

                                      The shooter had his head evacuated by countersnipers.

                                      Trump just got lucky, turned his head at an angle where the bullet just barely knicked the top of his ear.

                                      If you want a recent shooting that did not play out as advertised, you're looking for the Kirk shooting, not Trump at Butler PA.

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                                      takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      Yeah and also trump is covering and can grow his ear back so there is no sign of anything happen.

                                      All they need is to convince some mentally ill person that he will is part of secret program to protect trump and get him there with blanks.

                                      Then have someone shot into the crowd to add realism.

                                      Oh and if you think they wouldn't hurt innocent people you've been living under a rock for the past 10 years.

                                      putin (biggest beneficiary of the current US foreign policy) murdered 300 people and injured over 1,000 (in apartment bombings) to get elected.

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                                      • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                                        he's working up to Adolf Hitler's number of 42 plots.

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                                        tigerace@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        #99

                                        42 is the answer to everything. I'm glad Hitler succeeded in what the others failed to do: kill Hitler. Just a bit late though. Doing it after getting rejected from art school would have been better.

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                                        • T takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                          Yeah and also trump is covering and can grow his ear back so there is no sign of anything happen.

                                          All they need is to convince some mentally ill person that he will is part of secret program to protect trump and get him there with blanks.

                                          Then have someone shot into the crowd to add realism.

                                          Oh and if you think they wouldn't hurt innocent people you've been living under a rock for the past 10 years.

                                          putin (biggest beneficiary of the current US foreign policy) murdered 300 people and injured over 1,000 (in apartment bombings) to get elected.

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                                          sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          #100

                                          I truly do not know why or how so many people struggle with the concept of a shallow graze injury from a bullet, to an ear, that has an absolute ton of easily broken capillaries, especially a near 80 year old ear.

                                          Its honestly entirely possible this shooting at the Press Dinner had some MK Ultra bs going on, the dude was psyop'd into it.

                                          That wouldn't surprise me at all.

                                          It wouldn't surprise me if they knew this guy was coming, that he planned to do this, and they just figured they could stop him, and it would somehow be advantageous for them to go with that.

                                          ... But I also don't like to confidently state things I do not know to be true.

                                          Produce evidence there was a shooter in the crowd at Butler, and I'll look at it.

                                          Other than that: Anybody can just say shit confidently.

                                          This is typically called being a con artist.

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