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Trump says 'shooter apprehended' after president rushed from White House Correspondents' Dinner

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  • G givesomefucks@lemmy.world

    you’d have encountered people who don’t use the cable news definition.

    What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

    "Cable news definition"?

    We're talking about using the "definition" from after the invention of modern democracy centuries ago

    I don't know if you're fucking with me or legitimately this confident yet consistently wrong

    At this point it doesn't fucking matter tho.

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    alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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    #101

    We’re talking about using the “definition” from after the invention of modern democracy centuries ago

    I gave you a book going over how its been used since the French revolution.

    Here's Huey P Newton making the same exact observation: https://redsails.org/the-pitfalls-of-liberalism/

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comS sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

      I truly do not know why or how so many people struggle with the concept of a shallow graze injury from a bullet, to an ear, that has an absolute ton of easily broken capillaries, especially a near 80 year old ear.

      Its honestly entirely possible this shooting at the Press Dinner had some MK Ultra bs going on, the dude was psyop'd into it.

      That wouldn't surprise me at all.

      It wouldn't surprise me if they knew this guy was coming, that he planned to do this, and they just figured they could stop him, and it would somehow be advantageous for them to go with that.

      ... But I also don't like to confidently state things I do not know to be true.

      Produce evidence there was a shooter in the crowd at Butler, and I'll look at it.

      Other than that: Anybody can just say shit confidently.

      This is typically called being a con artist.

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      village604@adultswim.fan
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      Because those types of wounds take forever to heal in a geriatric.

      His ear cartilage would almost certainly have been shattered by a bullet, but even if it wasn't his ear would be purple for weeks.

      Plus, there's no way secret service would let him stand back up for his photo op. And Trump is such a scared baby that there's no way he would have stood back up if there was an active shooter. This is the dude who hid in a bunker because there was a protest outside.

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      • G givesomefucks@lemmy.world

        you’d have encountered people who don’t use the cable news definition.

        What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

        "Cable news definition"?

        We're talking about using the "definition" from after the invention of modern democracy centuries ago

        I don't know if you're fucking with me or legitimately this confident yet consistently wrong

        At this point it doesn't fucking matter tho.

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        alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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        Seriously tho, read Huey P Newton's essay, it should be required reading for anyone who doesn't understand what happened in 2020.

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        • V village604@adultswim.fan

          Because those types of wounds take forever to heal in a geriatric.

          His ear cartilage would almost certainly have been shattered by a bullet, but even if it wasn't his ear would be purple for weeks.

          Plus, there's no way secret service would let him stand back up for his photo op. And Trump is such a scared baby that there's no way he would have stood back up if there was an active shooter. This is the dude who hid in a bunker because there was a protest outside.

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          sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          #104

          Why would his ear cartilidge have been shattered if the bullet just grazed over the top of the helix of his ear?

          https://xcancel.com/David_Leavitt/status/1817386288749633869

          2 weeks after the shooting:

          The helix of his ear is perhaps uncommon in that it is nearly flat when viewed from side on, where most people's ear's helix are more convex, more curved.

          The bullet did not actually punch through any part of his ear.

          The shooter was at an elevation barely any higher that the elevation Trump was standing at on a raised platform, so the shot came from his from his from right, essentially flat trajectory.

          The bullet barely grazed the section of his ear that is here, 2 weeks later, still showing a bunch of burst capillaries.

          Its essentially a serious abrasion wound, not a puncture or blunt impact wound.

          This is what you would expect from essentinally holding a drill bit covered in ~160 grit sand paper, rotating at ~280,000 rpm, just barely touching your ear, for a tiny fraction of a second.

          The images from during the shooting are 100% consistent with this area as the origin point for the blood that streamed down his ear and parts of his face.

          Blood trickles downward, thanks to gravity, and covered portions of his ear, that many people seem to think are parts of his ear that got totally obliterated, punched out, by the bullet.

          But that isn't what happened.

          You could see by day 7 that no major portion of the interior of his ear had been obliterated.

          https://www.tmz.com/2024/07/20/donald-trump-rally-bandage-bandaid-bullet-injured/

          One week after the shooting:

          Had the interior of his ear been punched out, he'd still be wearing a very large bandage covering much of his ear, to prevent potential infection getting into the punched out hole.

          But there was no punched out hole, so this was not necessary.


          Also, his ear would not have been entirely purple from the scenario I am describing.

          That is what you would expect if somebody gave a left hook to his ear, or smacked it with an almanac or something like that: a blunt force injury across the entire ear, that would have broken so many capillaries that he'd have blood pooling internally (ie, bruising) throughout the ear.

          ... but that is not what happened.


          As to him not standing up... Trump would have been able to hear the much closer to him counter sniper firing off rounds toward the would be assasin.

          He's a showman. Wants to be famous, wants to be admired, knows the value of good PR, even if his idea of what constitutes good PR is quite often deranged.

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