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Democrats Introduce Bill To More Than Triple The Minimum Wage

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  • jackbydev@programming.devJ jackbydev@programming.dev

    They just get non-salary benefits

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    bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca
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    That's where the cap needs to be. There will always be someone capable and willing to take the job without the enormous pay packet. Executive pay is the biggest scam ever created.

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    • B blacklazor@lemmy.world

      Or turn you unemployed if employment at new wage isn't feasible.

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      bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca
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      Most of the past history of raising minimum wage/payroll taxes/employee benefits has been immediate outcry by business groups over how all business is going to go bankrupt/the sky is falling followed by change that a year later has business chugging along mostly the same as it was prior to their catastrophizing. It's not really surprising that employees who are able to spend more, spend more.

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        chonkyowlbear@lemmy.world
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        Thank you! I was going crazy with every affordability discussion I heard only talking about cutting taxes and ways to lower costs here and there. Raising incomes fixes everything.

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        • airicafyresong@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA airicafyresong@lemmy.blahaj.zone

          Both parties are in on the whole thing, the system being rigged from the very beginning. I don't buy any of it; it's all theater.

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          chonkyowlbear@lemmy.world
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          Conspiracy theory nonsense

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          • kyrgizion@lemmy.worldK kyrgizion@lemmy.world

            They can't pass it. They don't have majority.
            Now watch as they win midterms and this gets forgotten completely.

            I mean, why not introduce this bill during any of the 4 years Biden was in office? Because it would've been actual policy, and they don't want that. This is political virtue signaling and nothing more.

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            chonkyowlbear@lemmy.world
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            Because raising the minimum wage when the economy was on the verge of collapse from COVID shut downs would have been idiotic?

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            • A architect@thelemmy.club

              I’m far left with a small business.

              Yea this $25 an hour would ensure I’d remain a slave and the few jobs I can afford to offer (which are actually fun and in the arts) would all just be me until i keeled over and died paintbrush in hand.

              I don’t get fucking paid $25 an hour right now and I pay myself.

              Or i could close up shop and work at Walmart like everyone else. Then no one will have anyone or anything to ever see again in America that’s not a major public corp.

              The answer is to redistribute that wealth those corps stole from us.

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              chonkyowlbear@lemmy.world
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              If you can't run a business that pays you $25 an hour, it's not a viable business. Work a job that pays and do the art you enjoy for the love of it.

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              • E echo@lemmy.today

                Yay! Public masturbation instead of actually fucking doing something. What happened to impeaching the shit stain that keeps desecrating the constitution?

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                chonkyowlbear@lemmy.world
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                He has been impeached twice and it failed both times. We don't have any more votes than we did the last two times, so we would just be banging our heads against a brick wall.

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                  sam_bass@lemmy.world
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                  It should be at least $20/hr

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                  • B bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca

                    That's where the cap needs to be. There will always be someone capable and willing to take the job without the enormous pay packet. Executive pay is the biggest scam ever created.

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                    joebigelow@lemmy.ca
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                    No but you see if we don't offer 2 million a year AT LEAST we won't attract too talent!

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                      rosaluxemburgsghost@lemmy.ml
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                      Not nearly enough.

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                        404found@lemmy.zip
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                        This is just for show and will end up going nowhere. If you think this has even a remote chance at changing the minimum wage then I have a bridge to sell you.

                        We live in a time where democrats do nothing but act appalled, corporations control politics, corporations keep getting bigger, consumer prices increase year after year, healthcare premiums constantly cost more and employee benefits keep getting more expensive every year. What gives you the idea corporations are going to let politicians triple minimum wage? If that happens it will have a ripple effect where higher paying job positions will want a raise because why should someone making an entry level wage be paid the same as a job position with a lot more responsibility?

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                        • S sam_bass@lemmy.world

                          It should be at least $20/hr

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                          fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          The bill is for $25. No way it'll actually happen tho even though we desperately need it

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                          • joebigelow@lemmy.caJ joebigelow@lemmy.ca

                            No but you see if we don't offer 2 million a year AT LEAST we won't attract too talent!

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                            immutable@lemmy.zip
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                            It’s such a wild lie that for some reason we are all supposed to take seriously.

                            We all work at companies, the executives aren’t doing anything earth shattering. Most executives seem to be running the playbook of “give the customer less and charge them more to increase profits”. Wow, what innovation!

                            I would love for someone to be able to point out some concrete brilliant ideas that an executive actually had that went from “vague bullshit” to execution without getting worked and reworked and reworked by a bunch of normal employees until it was actually viable.

                            Steve Jobs made the iPhone, oh by himself, did he design the chips and write the software? Sure the vision is great, but for every iPhone there are a thousand CEOs that basically keep the lights on an already functioning company and raise the price. Oversee a rebrand. Go on the news and talk up their company.

                            And they’d have you believe that that’s worth 300-400x what a regular employee.

                            That every day they are coming in and providing more benefit than a worker does in an entire year. It’s the most obvious bullshit we’ve ever been asked to swallow

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                            • F fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              The bill is for $25. No way it'll actually happen tho even though we desperately need it

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                              corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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                              I can see it happening... After Trump's next Fed pick causes super inflation to bring down the debt.

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                              • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.worldC chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world

                                If you don't support one, by default you support the other.

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                                ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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                                How convenient for the genocide wing that all criticism is trump support.

                                Great way to get out of bein' criticized.

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                                  commander@lemmy.world
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                                  #196

                                  This may be for show but that's more show than they were willing to show 2019-2021. Republicans were throwing out certain to fail bills constantly for at least the last 25 years. It at least throws people a marketing bone and also any that make it out of committee to a floor vote, it puts on record/something to market for/against an elected public servant. Republicans effectively steer public opinion against their own to their advantage for getting stuff passed and who they want into office. Democrats do not.

                                  It's one way to craft a publicly recognizable party ideology that the democratic party has failed to build up these last few decades. The we're not republicans, we looks and sound more professional doesn't work. Something like this is a major improvement. If it makes it to the floor for a vote, which democrats and republicans will vote against or abstain. We should want that for potential future primary challengers and be encouraging these

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                                  • V vicerotempus@lemmy.world

                                    I'm far more interested in a wage cap. Top level earner can't earn more than 10x the lowest level earner in the company. And a it doesn't matter the amount the wage is, if it isn't also tied to inflation as we'll be back fighting this fight again in short order if it isn't. That of course is take all of this at face value, and pretending it's not just theater.

                                    Though overall I would still prefer people rejecting the current business structures and making employee-owned businesses the new way. Go Pirate with the whole thing, everybody works for shares. Unions/Min. Wage are just compromises from realizing the true potential and pay of the working class.

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                                    jadetoffee@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    there will never be a wage cap under this current neoliberal hellscape. the entire goal of both parties is to make money for their corporate interests

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                                    • S socialmediarefugee@lemmy.world

                                      Letting states set standards for everything creates a competitive environment that pushes for a race to the bottom. Every state feels they need to cut taxes more and more (and degrade public services), add more gambling, reduce rules for corporate behavior on pollution, etc. A federal standard levels the playing field.

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                                      modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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                                      That is a very good point. But then how do you account for the vast difference in cost of living across the country. There is just no single right answer for everyone.

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                                        canifishhere@lemmy.ca
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                                        How can anyone survive on ~$7.80/hr? That is modern day indentured slavery.

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                                        • 4 404found@lemmy.zip

                                          This is just for show and will end up going nowhere. If you think this has even a remote chance at changing the minimum wage then I have a bridge to sell you.

                                          We live in a time where democrats do nothing but act appalled, corporations control politics, corporations keep getting bigger, consumer prices increase year after year, healthcare premiums constantly cost more and employee benefits keep getting more expensive every year. What gives you the idea corporations are going to let politicians triple minimum wage? If that happens it will have a ripple effect where higher paying job positions will want a raise because why should someone making an entry level wage be paid the same as a job position with a lot more responsibility?

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                                          amgine@lemmy.world
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                                          Not just that but if it passed it would eat into profits. We can’t have that, think of the shareholders

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