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Democrats Introduce Bill To More Than Triple The Minimum Wage

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  • E echo@lemmy.today

    Yay! Public masturbation instead of actually fucking doing something. What happened to impeaching the shit stain that keeps desecrating the constitution?

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    mkwt@lemmy.world
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    In fact, the impeachment resolutions have already been filed, and they are going to get just as far as this bill. So I don't understand your complaint. For example.

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    • C cogman@lemmy.world

      It's a great move and these are bills that need to be introduced frequently by dems right now. When people say "Yeah, but what can they do". This. This is what they can do. Introducing these messaging bills for republicans to vote again and then grand standing on how republicans won't do anything to help the working class.

      But dems must follow through. Minimum wage is the prefect example of where they should follow through. Attach it to a budget bill and when the parliamentarian says "not allowed" tell them to F off and push it through anyways. Just as the republicans have already done several times since they took control. Or blow up the filibuster. Either is an acceptable act for when dems get power. But they must deliver.

      If dems operate like they did in Biden term 1 or Obama term 1, they'll be sunk in 2032.

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      tiral@lemmy.world
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      Pretty much. I'd love to see a party actually have balls. Ever when the Dems are in the majority they just circle jerk each other.

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      • T tiral@lemmy.world

        Pretty much. I'd love to see a party actually have balls. Ever when the Dems are in the majority they just circle jerk each other.

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        cogman@lemmy.world
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        We are fortunately seeing some of this with the gerrymandering bills. The absolute right messaging came from AOC when asked about the Virginia redistricting "We have a bill on the table to resolve this very problem but Republicans refuse to support it. If they hate this, they can feel free to vote to stop all gerrymandering".

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          newthrowaway20@lemmy.world
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          When they know it won't pass, they go big. Honestly they should have gone bigger.

          I hope they prove me wrong, but you won't see me holding my breath.

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            kyrgizion@lemmy.world
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            They can't pass it. They don't have majority.
            Now watch as they win midterms and this gets forgotten completely.

            I mean, why not introduce this bill during any of the 4 years Biden was in office? Because it would've been actual policy, and they don't want that. This is political virtue signaling and nothing more.

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            • S sheepherder@lemmy.world

              It will definitely increase inflation.

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              punnyname@lemmy.world
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              That thing that's already gone up in the last 16+ years without the minimum wage doing up once?

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                gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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                I’m not trying to be a negative Nancy here, but I gotta say, the fact that shit like this has NEVER in my lifetime been introduced when the Democratic Party actually has control of anything is pretty fucking telling.

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                  tedesche@lemmy.world
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                  This is garbage. It appeals to a far left constituency while alienating the moderate left people who are just trying to make their small businesses work. There has got to be a compromise line between these two groups. This is not how you win elections.

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                  • S sheepherder@lemmy.world

                    It will definitely increase inflation.

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                    sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz
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                    There are always doomsayers saying raising the minimum wage will do <insert economic doomsday opinion>. And over and over it's shown to not have that effect. What it does in improve the lives of millions of people.

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                    • T tedesche@lemmy.world

                      This is garbage. It appeals to a far left constituency while alienating the moderate left people who are just trying to make their small businesses work. There has got to be a compromise line between these two groups. This is not how you win elections.

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                      polariscap@lemmy.cafe
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                      I might be wrong but I don’t think this actually pleases “far left” — far left prefers maximums / taxing billionaires rather than just raising the minimum without any regulations to keep costs from rising indefinitely

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                      • T tedesche@lemmy.world

                        This is garbage. It appeals to a far left constituency while alienating the moderate left people who are just trying to make their small businesses work. There has got to be a compromise line between these two groups. This is not how you win elections.

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                        sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz
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                        A livable wage is now considered a far left issue? Jesus christ things have gotten bad.

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                        • T tedesche@lemmy.world

                          This is garbage. It appeals to a far left constituency while alienating the moderate left people who are just trying to make their small businesses work. There has got to be a compromise line between these two groups. This is not how you win elections.

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                          fistingenthusiast@lemmy.world
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                          That's a lot of words for "I'm selfish and don't understand how people on low incomes tend to spend more money proportionately, thereby stimulating small businesses"

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                          • S sheepherder@lemmy.world

                            It will definitely increase inflation.

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                            mushroommunk@lemmy.today
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                            Studies show a 10% raise in minimum wage causes only 0.36% increase in prices.

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                            • B bigfish@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              And pin it to an inflation index maybe?

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                              semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.world
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                              This thing is just theater. This is like asking for paleontological accuracy in a Godzilla movie. It’s an important detail in reality but not in these theatrics.

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                              • T tedesche@lemmy.world

                                This is garbage. It appeals to a far left constituency while alienating the moderate left people who are just trying to make their small businesses work. There has got to be a compromise line between these two groups. This is not how you win elections.

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                                ambitiousprocess@piefed.social
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                                This is garbage.

                                This is still less than some areas' true living wage in this country. Look up essentially any city here, and you'll find its living wage is often much higher than both the current minimum wage, the most frequently proposed $15 increase, and this new $25 increase.

                                Minimum wages should be living wages, not the bare minimum to not starve unless you even temporarily lose your job and are now deemed ineligible to live.

                                https://livingwage.mit.edu/

                                It appeals to a far left constituency

                                74% of Democrats (center-right), and 55% of voters overall (left, center, and right combined) support a minimum wage increase to $25/hour. This is not a fringe idea.

                                https://www.onefairwage.org/research-reports/poll-testing-%2425-minimum-wage-in-competitive-congressional-districts

                                while alienating the moderate left people who are just trying to make their small businesses work.

                                When minimum wages rise, small businesses find it easier and cheaper to hire new employees, face less turnover, and are able to charge a high enough price to cover the newly increased cost without inflating prices faster than the minimum wage.

                                Raising the minimum wage for everyone benefits individuals, small businesses, and the economy at large. It even reduces the high school dropout rate!

                                https://news.berkeley.edu/2023/03/14/even-in-small-businesses-minimum-wage-hikes-dont-cause-job-losses-study-finds/

                                This is not how you win elections.

                                Pushing a broadly popular issue relating to affordability at a time when economic uncertainty is around the highest it's ever been is an incredibly good strategy to win elections.

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                                • B bigmachole@thelemmy.club

                                  How DARE they Show voters what to Expect if PROGRESSIVES win a Majority!

                                  -People who will DISAPPEAR after the Midterms!

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                                  semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.world
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                                  I’ll believe it when I see it and maybe not even then because it’ll get struck down by the Supreme Court or something.

                                  Good. Things. Don’t. Happen.

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                                  • T tedesche@lemmy.world

                                    This is garbage. It appeals to a far left constituency while alienating the moderate left people who are just trying to make their small businesses work. There has got to be a compromise line between these two groups. This is not how you win elections.

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                                    skeezix@lemmy.world
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                                    If your business model doesnt allow payment of a living wage then your business deserves to fail

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                                    • S sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz

                                      A livable wage is now considered a far left issue? Jesus christ things have gotten bad.

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                                      guyfawkesv@lemmy.world
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                                      I’m sorry you’ve just now noticed. May want to take a look at Nov 2024-present.

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                                      • themadcodger@piefed.socialT themadcodger@piefed.social

                                        Pin it to congressional compensation.

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                                        chahn.chris@piefed.social
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                                        Damn this is an amazing idea.

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                                        • kyrgizion@lemmy.worldK kyrgizion@lemmy.world

                                          They can't pass it. They don't have majority.
                                          Now watch as they win midterms and this gets forgotten completely.

                                          I mean, why not introduce this bill during any of the 4 years Biden was in office? Because it would've been actual policy, and they don't want that. This is political virtue signaling and nothing more.

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                                          serinus@lemmy.world
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                                          So according to this there is absolutely nothing the Dems can do right now that would make you happy.

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