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Democrats Introduce Bill To More Than Triple The Minimum Wage

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  • S serinus@lemmy.world

    So according to this there is absolutely nothing the Dems can do right now that would make you happy.

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    timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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    First day here?

    Most people here it seems would rather be worse off so they can continue to bitch endlessly than have anything good happen.

    Probably why half tell you voting is useless too even as primaries happen and Zoran is already in office doing things they should like.

    That notwithstanding I'd like to see polling on the matter. Right or wrong I would suspect a majority would be against such a drastic increase making this a loser of an issue.

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    • L legge@lemmy.world

      Technically yes, but the federal minimum wage right now is $7.25/hr (with a few exceptions). Even full-time at this amount is poverty level in most of the country, and many places now pay more than this anyway, so it doesn't actually do much. In fact, now it seems like companies can use it as a way to suppress wages by saying look, we're offering you $12/hr, which is almost double the minimum wage! In reality, that's still insufficient to live anywhere by yourself in basically the entire country

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      redacted@infosec.pub
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      #82

      I make slightly more than that in East Europe, which is more or less average here. Granted, that's only the "official" job, second or freelance jobs are quite popular here. While my day job is at factory, my nighttime job is mostly around computers (my very first job was webdev)

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      • M mrshankles@reddthat.com

        Thanks I guess? Maybe try stopping the fascist movement first... we can talk about empty promises later, but I ain't seen y'all push back worth a fuck. Sure as shit, I don't believe that weak sentiment if ya can't even oust a certified pedo

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        8oow3291d@feddit.dk
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        #83

        Maybe try stopping the fascist movement first

        Hard to do when voters just handed control of all branches of government to Republicans.

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        • T tedesche@lemmy.world

          This is garbage. It appeals to a far left constituency while alienating the moderate left people who are just trying to make their small businesses work. There has got to be a compromise line between these two groups. This is not how you win elections.

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          bold_atlas@lemmy.world
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          #84

          The moderate left business owners? WTF?

          Raising the minimum wage is far left?

          What even is this?

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          • L legge@lemmy.world

            Technically yes, but the federal minimum wage right now is $7.25/hr (with a few exceptions). Even full-time at this amount is poverty level in most of the country, and many places now pay more than this anyway, so it doesn't actually do much. In fact, now it seems like companies can use it as a way to suppress wages by saying look, we're offering you $12/hr, which is almost double the minimum wage! In reality, that's still insufficient to live anywhere by yourself in basically the entire country

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            barneypiccolo@lemmy.today
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            The minimum wage has been raised twice since 1997, for a total of $2.10. The last increase was in 2009. It now stands at $7.25 an hour.

            30 states have established their own Minimum Wage higher than the Federal minimum, but 20 states remain at the Federal minimum, all Red states, of course:

            • Alabama (No state law)
            • Georgia
            • Idaho
            • Indiana
            • Iowa
            • Kansas
            • Kentucky
            • Louisiana (No state law)
            • Mississippi (No state law)
            • New Hampshire
            • North Carolina
            • North Dakota
            • Oklahoma
            • Pennsylvania
            • South Carolina (No state law)
            • Tennessee (No state law)
            • Texas
            • Utah
            • Wisconsin
            • Wyoming
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            • T tedesche@lemmy.world

              This is garbage. It appeals to a far left constituency while alienating the moderate left people who are just trying to make their small businesses work. There has got to be a compromise line between these two groups. This is not how you win elections.

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              queermunist@lemmy.ml
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              #86

              This is already a compromise. The far left answer to small business owners is to expropriate your capital and force you to get a job like everyone else.

              Besides that, workers outnumber business owners 170.7 million to 36.2 million. You're a really tiny voting bloc and most of you vote Republican in every election anyway, so who cares what you think?

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                melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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                More theatre? I would hope not but fuck this timeline...

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                  ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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                  #88

                  Democrats pretend to want to do the right thing when they're not in power.

                  When they're in power, we get more than enough no votes to sink it and tonedeaf celebration of the girlboss energy of Sinema's thumbs down.

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                  • R rockslayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                    Lifting millions out of poverty wages isn't "masturbation". Wealth inequality can be traced to several problems within the country, and can be directly linked to several factors leading to the election of Trump.

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                    ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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                    It would be nice if they weren't lying about wanting to do it, too.

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                    • S serinus@lemmy.world

                      They complain that Dems don't do anything. We say they don't have the votes.

                      Dems try to do something. They complain that Dems tried to do something.

                      It's almost like these people don't really care what the Dems do or don't do. It's almost like their goal isn't to improve the Democratic party, but that they have some other agenda.

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                      ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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                      #90

                      Last time democrats had the majority, they were positively gleeful about blocking a wage increase.

                      Why should anyone trust a party that doesn't keep its promises?

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                      • T tollana1234567@lemmy.today

                        its performative for election, almost everywhere even in red states has raised the minimum wage since. remember one of the dem senators was introducing a bill about our flag, that amounts to nothing.

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                        sparkybauer44@lemmy.world
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                        $7.25 in this red state...

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                        • M melsaskca@lemmy.ca

                          More theatre? I would hope not but fuck this timeline...

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                          serinus@lemmy.world
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                          Do you think this is gonna pass? I'm not sure what you expect here.

                          If Dems get 56% of seats, this'll likely pass. (51% isn't enough because Fetterman is nearly useless).

                          For some reason people here really want to focus on the few potential holdouts rather than the 50% or more of Republicans who are the real reason this won't pass.

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                          • D doorbook@lemmy.world

                            Trump white house just posted " 2 kings" and these people still trying to pass fake bills?

                            The people of the US need to woke up before it is too late if they want their democracy back, otherwise they can accept the new kingdom.

                            I am not sure what he will call it, maybe just Trump

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                            8oow3291d@feddit.dk
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                            these people still trying to pass fake bills?

                            Telling voters what to expect, if voters give Democrats power, is not "fake bills". What do you want, for Democrats to not tell voters what they would pass, if given power?

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                            • S serinus@lemmy.world

                              Do you think this is gonna pass? I'm not sure what you expect here.

                              If Dems get 56% of seats, this'll likely pass. (51% isn't enough because Fetterman is nearly useless).

                              For some reason people here really want to focus on the few potential holdouts rather than the 50% or more of Republicans who are the real reason this won't pass.

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                              architect@thelemmy.club
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                              $25 would destroy any ability for most small businesses to ever get larger or going at all.

                              I’m basically dying a slave holding a paintbrush in that timeline or raising prices 5x at least. $2k a month for employee health insurance. $25 an hour. Kiss literally everything that isn’t a major corp goodbye!

                              What needs to happen is redistributing that wealth those corps stole from us.

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                              • 8 8oow3291d@feddit.dk

                                Maybe try stopping the fascist movement first

                                Hard to do when voters just handed control of all branches of government to Republicans.

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                                architect@thelemmy.club
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                                Yet republicans manage to get all sorts of things done when they didn’t even have a majority.

                                So democrats can try harder. Democrats can remove the pedotus by any means necessary.

                                Pedotus tried (succeeded?) to overthrow the us government and nothing happened to him. He got reelected.

                                Democrats can do so so much more. As proven by republicans. Yet they don’t. Why?

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                                • A architect@thelemmy.club

                                  $25 would destroy any ability for most small businesses to ever get larger or going at all.

                                  I’m basically dying a slave holding a paintbrush in that timeline or raising prices 5x at least. $2k a month for employee health insurance. $25 an hour. Kiss literally everything that isn’t a major corp goodbye!

                                  What needs to happen is redistributing that wealth those corps stole from us.

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                                  dioramaofshit@lemmy.world
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                                  Small business's definitely can afford to pay 25$ an hour. If they can't, they dont deserve to be in businessm

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                                  • airicafyresong@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA airicafyresong@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                    Both parties are in on the whole thing, the system being rigged from the very beginning. I don't buy any of it; it's all theater.

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                                    architect@thelemmy.club
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                                    I fully believe this now.

                                    Losing to the worst man to ever live in modern times. Twice.

                                    The people don’t want democrats. Democrats are the fucking block from the people to actually do anything. They are standing in our fucking way.

                                    I fully believe that’s on purpose and I also believe the only way out of this is to let them lose so fucking hard no one can pretend anymore.

                                    Those fucking pieces of shit backed us right up to fascism to retain power. I fucking hate those people for doing this to us.

                                    Let them lose and let us fucking fight for the America we actually want.

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                                    • T tankovayadiviziya@lemmy.world

                                      I mean, why not introduce this bill during any of the 4 years Biden was in office?

                                      bCoS wE dOn'T hAvE tHe mAjOrItY!!

                                      It's the usual and convenient excuse that Dems and their neoliberal fans love to use. As if not having a majority in either houses ever stopped Republicans! If the Dems are really serious as an opposition, which they aren't, then they have to make popular choices-- the kitchen table issues. And not only that, actually impeach and imprison Trump. I think America has to go under a fully fledged dictatorship for Americans to actually know when they see one; kinda like Brazil imprisoning Bolsonaro for trying to overthrow the election, and they are not letting up at all. Because Brazil suffered from decades of dictatorship. Americans did not indict and arrest Trump because they are still arguing whether or not he's a fascist.

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                                      architect@thelemmy.club
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                                      Meanwhile Trump calls himself a fascist. Lol the country is filled with brainrot. Give them their reality tv or whatever the fuck it is my fellow Americans do all day. Sounds like a completely different language when I’m around my countrymen. Nothing going on in the head.

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                                      • S serinus@lemmy.world

                                        So according to this there is absolutely nothing the Dems can do right now that would make you happy.

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                                        architect@thelemmy.club
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                                        Yes because they are ineffective fucking liars.

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                                        • A architect@thelemmy.club

                                          $25 would destroy any ability for most small businesses to ever get larger or going at all.

                                          I’m basically dying a slave holding a paintbrush in that timeline or raising prices 5x at least. $2k a month for employee health insurance. $25 an hour. Kiss literally everything that isn’t a major corp goodbye!

                                          What needs to happen is redistributing that wealth those corps stole from us.

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                                          serinus@lemmy.world
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                                          Maybe we should do universal healthcare too. That would help them.

                                          I'm not one of those anarchists that thinks nobody needs to work, but I think universal healthcare, an actual living minimum wage, and a 32-36 hour work week are all achievable.

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