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  3. Democrats Introduce Bill To More Than Triple The Minimum Wage

Democrats Introduce Bill To More Than Triple The Minimum Wage

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  • A architect@thelemmy.club

    Enjoy your Walmarts on every corner.

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    queermunist@lemmy.ml
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    #121

    One of the biggest problems with Walmart is how little they pay their workers.

    Forcing them to pay $25/hr seems like a pretty good deal.

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    • E ensign_crab@lemmy.world

      Telling voters what to expect, if voters give Democrats power

      After decades of lies, you'll have to excuse the skepticism of people who have been paying attention.

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      They will be talking about this bill being shut down by Republicans for the next 20 years. They will talk about how improper it would be to reintroduce the bill after it was voted down. If they are ever in power they will point to this failed bill whenever the min wage comes up. They know that it will never pass, that's why it's being done now.

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      • M mrshankles@reddthat.com

        Thanks I guess? Maybe try stopping the fascist movement first... we can talk about empty promises later, but I ain't seen y'all push back worth a fuck. Sure as shit, I don't believe that weak sentiment if ya can't even oust a certified pedo

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        backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
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        #123

        A minimum wage increase without action against the powers and institutions that can simply adjust their practices to continue to make even $25/hr unlivable is just a bigger loaf of bread at a bigger circus. For a year or two the plebs will live like kings, then the new reality will hit. Democrats will do anything to win their base, but they’ll never actually confront the system. Fight for a world where $7.25 is a livable wage instead of one where $25 is just an opportunity for the wealthy to figure out new means to extract that much more out of you while your quality of life remains the same as it was before.

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        • silentjohn@lemmy.mlS silentjohn@lemmy.ml

          And it's still too low for anybody to live off of.

          https://livingwage.mit.edu/

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          entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          It would double my wages.
          Anything is better than nothing.

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            modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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            The min wage at the national level really doesn't make sense. For some places it is too high, and for other too low. There is just no right answer at that level.
            It should probably just be abolished. The only problem is that some red states would use that as an opportunity to further exploit their people. So there is just no winning here.

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            • E entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone

              It would double my wages.
              Anything is better than nothing.

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              blacklazor@lemmy.world
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              Or turn you unemployed if employment at new wage isn't feasible.

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              • S serinus@lemmy.world

                Maybe we should do universal healthcare too. That would help them.

                I'm not one of those anarchists that thinks nobody needs to work, but I think universal healthcare, an actual living minimum wage, and a 32-36 hour work week are all achievable.

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                blacklazor@lemmy.world
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                Universal Healthcare definitely is achievable but it requires a lot of tax money.

                Right now US total taxation level is ~30%. If you want EU style safety net on you, then expect 45-50%

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                • E ensign_crab@lemmy.world

                  Telling voters what to expect, if voters give Democrats power

                  After decades of lies, you'll have to excuse the skepticism of people who have been paying attention.

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                  8oow3291d@feddit.dk
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                  Democrats have not had a filibuster-proof majority for almost 20 years.

                  Sometimes I think Americans don't know how democracy works. You can't blame a party for not passing stuff, if you don't give that party the power to pass stuff.

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                  • C calfpupa@lemmy.ml

                    Uhh that would require them to try this shit when in power, which they don't do.

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                    8oow3291d@feddit.dk
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                    #129

                    Democrats have not had a filibuster-proof majority for almost 20 years.

                    Sometimes I think Americans don’t know how democracy works. You can’t blame a party for not passing stuff, if you don’t give that party the power to pass stuff.

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                    • A architect@thelemmy.club

                      Yet republicans manage to get all sorts of things done when they didn’t even have a majority.

                      So democrats can try harder. Democrats can remove the pedotus by any means necessary.

                      Pedotus tried (succeeded?) to overthrow the us government and nothing happened to him. He got reelected.

                      Democrats can do so so much more. As proven by republicans. Yet they don’t. Why?

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                      8oow3291d@feddit.dk
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                      Because

                      1. SCOTUS is corrupt, filled by Republican partisans, after voters gave Republicans the power to choose judges

                      2. It is way easier to block stuff, than to pass stuff. So when Republicans right now is preventing a minimum wage increase, Republicans can do that

                      3. "Democrats can remove the pedotus by any means necessary." - which requires a supermajority in the Senate. Whereas leaving Trump in power requires nothing. So Republicans "win".

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                      • M melsaskca@lemmy.ca

                        More theatre? I would hope not but fuck this timeline...

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                        lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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                        #131

                        Yeah this is going nowhere and it's not going to flip anyone to their side. Performative bullshit.

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                          socialmediarefugee@lemmy.world
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                          Most states have gone well beyond the federal wage so this would mainly just bring it to approximately the norm in most states.

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                          • M modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world

                            The min wage at the national level really doesn't make sense. For some places it is too high, and for other too low. There is just no right answer at that level.
                            It should probably just be abolished. The only problem is that some red states would use that as an opportunity to further exploit their people. So there is just no winning here.

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                            socialmediarefugee@lemmy.world
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                            Letting states set standards for everything creates a competitive environment that pushes for a race to the bottom. Every state feels they need to cut taxes more and more (and degrade public services), add more gambling, reduce rules for corporate behavior on pollution, etc. A federal standard levels the playing field.

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                            • 8 8oow3291d@feddit.dk

                              Because

                              1. SCOTUS is corrupt, filled by Republican partisans, after voters gave Republicans the power to choose judges

                              2. It is way easier to block stuff, than to pass stuff. So when Republicans right now is preventing a minimum wage increase, Republicans can do that

                              3. "Democrats can remove the pedotus by any means necessary." - which requires a supermajority in the Senate. Whereas leaving Trump in power requires nothing. So Republicans "win".

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                              lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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                              And yet they aren't blocking anything Trump is doing...

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                              • B blacklazor@lemmy.world

                                Universal Healthcare definitely is achievable but it requires a lot of tax money.

                                Right now US total taxation level is ~30%. If you want EU style safety net on you, then expect 45-50%

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                                serinus@lemmy.world
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                                Sure is a good thing we don't currently count healthcare costs as taxes, or that'd look a lot different. Did you know most employers spend more on your healthcare than you do?

                                Whatever you call it, it would be nice to have more take home pay.

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                                  And yet they aren't blocking anything Trump is doing...

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                                  8oow3291d@feddit.dk
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                                  They. Don't. Have. The. Power. To. Do. So.

                                  Voters have not given Democrats the power to block anything. Republicans control both chambers of Congress. How is that so hard to understand?

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                                    Or turn you unemployed if employment at new wage isn't feasible.

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                                    liuther9@lemmy.world
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                                    Yes. This wont work without taxing rich properly

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                                    • A architect@thelemmy.club

                                      $25 would destroy any ability for most small businesses to ever get larger or going at all.

                                      I’m basically dying a slave holding a paintbrush in that timeline or raising prices 5x at least. $2k a month for employee health insurance. $25 an hour. Kiss literally everything that isn’t a major corp goodbye!

                                      What needs to happen is redistributing that wealth those corps stole from us.

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                                      datavoid@sh.itjust.works
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                                      Not sure why this is getting down voted so hard. There are a ton of small businesses that have really small margins, just think about how many didn't survive COVID. Any businesses that hire lots of low skill labourers would struggle to get off the ground.

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                                        return_of_chippy@lemmy.world
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                                        This is one of those ask for 100 so you can negotiate down to 50 kind of things isn't it? Or just a pretend attempt to look good when it's obviously rejected.

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                                        • S serinus@lemmy.world

                                          Sure is a good thing we don't currently count healthcare costs as taxes, or that'd look a lot different. Did you know most employers spend more on your healthcare than you do?

                                          Whatever you call it, it would be nice to have more take home pay.

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                                          blacklazor@lemmy.world
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                                          How about reforming healthcare so it's both private and reasonably priced?

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