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  3. Democrats Introduce Bill To More Than Triple The Minimum Wage

Democrats Introduce Bill To More Than Triple The Minimum Wage

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  • E ensign_crab@lemmy.world

    Democrats pretend to want to do the right thing when they're not in power.

    When they're in power, we get more than enough no votes to sink it and tonedeaf celebration of the girlboss energy of Sinema's thumbs down.

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    aneb@lemmy.world
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    I'm only 26 and I've seen this happen at least 26 times

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      teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
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      These same commenters will make fun of reddit and twitter for always being cynical and rage fueled.

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        mandolrain@lemmy.world
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        From 1 to 3 - great!

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        • B blacklazor@lemmy.world

          Or turn you unemployed if employment at new wage isn't feasible.

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          iglou@programming.dev
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          Do you really think that wages are low because higher wages would make the businesses fail? Wages are low because businesses have no incentive to raise them in an employer's market, that's it. They make higher margins and keep the difference.

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          • S socialmediarefugee@lemmy.world

            Most states have gone well beyond the federal wage so this would mainly just bring it to approximately the norm in most states.

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            fit_series_573@lemmy.world
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            #145

            $7.25 minimum wage still exist here in this state while across the river its more than $15

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            • S socialmediarefugee@lemmy.world

              Most states have gone well beyond the federal wage so this would mainly just bring it to approximately the norm in most states.

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              calcopiritus@lemmy.world
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              Which should be a good starting place

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              • I iglou@programming.dev

                Do you really think that wages are low because higher wages would make the businesses fail? Wages are low because businesses have no incentive to raise them in an employer's market, that's it. They make higher margins and keep the difference.

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                blacklazor@lemmy.world
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                Both cases are possible. Wages may be low because of surplus of working force on the market (hence no incentives to rise wages) or can be result of extremely low margins at the given industry.

                There can be tens of reasons why wages are poor, and rising minimum pay solves the issue only in some cases

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                • F fit_series_573@lemmy.world

                  $7.25 minimum wage still exist here in this state while across the river its more than $15

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                  axexrx@lemmy.world
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                  #148

                  In my state its $15 but I haven't seen a job in my town posted in the last 8+ years for under $21 because vhcol.

                  The general consensus is minimum wage is whatever the grocery store is hiring at (they have had a poster at the front door for 20 years now posting what theyre hiring at. Right now its $32/$35 for overnight restocking) - every buisness owner knows theyre not going going to get any applications if they can't beat it.

                  Even tipped positions all pay $16+ so people can actually make rent.

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                  • B blacklazor@lemmy.world

                    Both cases are possible. Wages may be low because of surplus of working force on the market (hence no incentives to rise wages) or can be result of extremely low margins at the given industry.

                    There can be tens of reasons why wages are poor, and rising minimum pay solves the issue only in some cases

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                    iglou@programming.dev
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                    #149

                    Of course, there will be edge cases of industries that have not improved their margins over the years. But the fact that prices follow inflation, and wages do not, is enough information to generalise that businesses are greedy as fuck.

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                      atoro@lemmy.ml
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                      Can't wait for this to not go anywhere and have several dems finger-wag for the next several years saying there's nothing they can do

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                      • R return_of_chippy@lemmy.world

                        This is one of those ask for 100 so you can negotiate down to 50 kind of things isn't it? Or just a pretend attempt to look good when it's obviously rejected.

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                        pacattack57@lemmy.world
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                        Yes to both probably

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                        • 8 8oow3291d@feddit.dk

                          They. Don't. Have. The. Power. To. Do. So.

                          Voters have not given Democrats the power to block anything. Republicans control both chambers of Congress. How is that so hard to understand?

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                          lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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                          Not having control of Congress never stopped the Republicans from throwing wrenches into things. Figure. it. out. Cheat if they have to. If this shit goes on til midterms we're never getting out of this.

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                          • A axexrx@lemmy.world

                            In my state its $15 but I haven't seen a job in my town posted in the last 8+ years for under $21 because vhcol.

                            The general consensus is minimum wage is whatever the grocery store is hiring at (they have had a poster at the front door for 20 years now posting what theyre hiring at. Right now its $32/$35 for overnight restocking) - every buisness owner knows theyre not going going to get any applications if they can't beat it.

                            Even tipped positions all pay $16+ so people can actually make rent.

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                            fit_series_573@lemmy.world
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                            Our local paper just did a story on this this morning.
                            Only 44% of full time workers here make a living wage due to the low wages.

                            https://www.inquirer.com/business/living-wage-philadelphia-dayforce-work-20260429.html

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                            • R return_of_chippy@lemmy.world

                              This is one of those ask for 100 so you can negotiate down to 50 kind of things isn't it? Or just a pretend attempt to look good when it's obviously rejected.

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                              wakmrow@lemmy.world
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                              It's a pretend attempt lol

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                              • 8 8oow3291d@feddit.dk

                                Democrats have not had a filibuster-proof majority for almost 20 years.

                                Sometimes I think Americans don’t know how democracy works. You can’t blame a party for not passing stuff, if you don’t give that party the power to pass stuff.

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                                wakmrow@lemmy.world
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                                Wild how republicans can enact the most heinous shit then huh

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                                • L lightnsfw@reddthat.com

                                  Not having control of Congress never stopped the Republicans from throwing wrenches into things. Figure. it. out. Cheat if they have to. If this shit goes on til midterms we're never getting out of this.

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                                  8oow3291d@feddit.dk
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                                  Trump is governing by executive order. Hence the Democrats have to proactively pass laws to stop Trump. It is not a bill Democrats can filibuster in the Senate.

                                  Whereas Democrats actually try to pass bills, as the system is supposed to work. And when Biden or Obama did try to use executive orders, they were often blocked by SCOTUS. Because US voters allowed Republican Presidents to stack the courts with partisans.

                                  Also, generally Democrats are trying to build stuff. Whereas Republicans are trying to block or destroy stuff. destroying stuff is inherently easier.

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                                  • W wakmrow@lemmy.world

                                    Wild how republicans can enact the most heinous shit then huh

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                                    8oow3291d@feddit.dk
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                                    Examples please?

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                                    • R return_of_chippy@lemmy.world

                                      This is one of those ask for 100 so you can negotiate down to 50 kind of things isn't it? Or just a pretend attempt to look good when it's obviously rejected.

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                                      serinus@lemmy.world
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                                      No, it phases in over a few years.

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                                      • S serinus@lemmy.world

                                        No, it phases in over a few years.

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                                        return_of_chippy@lemmy.world
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                                        You're saying that as if it passed and will be going into effect. This will absolutely not pass if the 15 an hour that's been attempted constantly over the last decade hasn't.

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                                          vicerotempus@lemmy.world
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                                          I'm far more interested in a wage cap. Top level earner can't earn more than 10x the lowest level earner in the company. And a it doesn't matter the amount the wage is, if it isn't also tied to inflation as we'll be back fighting this fight again in short order if it isn't. That of course is take all of this at face value, and pretending it's not just theater.

                                          Though overall I would still prefer people rejecting the current business structures and making employee-owned businesses the new way. Go Pirate with the whole thing, everybody works for shares. Unions/Min. Wage are just compromises from realizing the true potential and pay of the working class.

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