Thank you for flying Spirit
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D.Litt stands up...
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As usual Lemmy downvoting things they don't agree with, even if it's true.
I was with a physician friend on the Las Vegas strip as a guy went down with a heart attack. I'm like, this is your moment! Go save them! And she grabs my arm and yanks me into a doorway so I can't make a commotion, explains that no doctor will simply do that, it means they're on the hook for it, when an EMT is just minutes away and is properly prepared to handle it. She said if doctors didn't obey this unwritten rule, they'd constantly be giving out care to random people, possibly without admitting privileges in nearby hospitals, taking on liability they're not insured for (being outside of a hospital), etc.
So you're completely right.
I don't think that a plane in flight is likely to have good EMT coverage.
There's a significant difference between "we're in an easily reachable party of a major city and I can expect a fully equipped ambulance to be here in minutes" and "we're in mid-air and even if we make an emergency landing the patient won't receive medical care for another hour unless I provide it".
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As usual Lemmy downvoting things they don't agree with, even if it's true.
I was with a physician friend on the Las Vegas strip as a guy went down with a heart attack. I'm like, this is your moment! Go save them! And she grabs my arm and yanks me into a doorway so I can't make a commotion, explains that no doctor will simply do that, it means they're on the hook for it, when an EMT is just minutes away and is properly prepared to handle it. She said if doctors didn't obey this unwritten rule, they'd constantly be giving out care to random people, possibly without admitting privileges in nearby hospitals, taking on liability they're not insured for (being outside of a hospital), etc.
So you're completely right.
You can do CPR without saying you're a doctor which is really all you can do in that situation. So maybe your friend is just a piece of shit?
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I really hope most doctors will save someone's life even if they don't get paid for it. But who knows? Maybe my faith in humanity is still higher than it should be.
have you met doctors? 4 out of 5 does not know their basic anatomy.
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Doctor in board: "Help, I'm trapped in a board! Is there a carpenter on the flight??"
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I bet you'd find Dr. Spaceman there.
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There's no doctors inboard, but how about outboard?
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have you met doctors? 4 out of 5 does not know their basic anatomy.
The penis is attached to:
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Unless you are incapacitated you need to help and two glasses of wine don't count here. But again this is valid for "normal" countries.
2 glasses is over the limit for doctors. When on call you can't drink even one.
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I'm a shitty person, therefore everyone else is.
Sure, I'm shitty. But I'm not a doctor. I've heard doctors taking about exactly this. And ones not from the U.S.
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I really hope most doctors will save someone's life even if they don't get paid for it. But who knows? Maybe my faith in humanity is still higher than it should be.
It's not really about being paid, it's about being covered by malpractice insurance which typically only happens for paid services. Yes people or people's families regularly sue doctors when treatment is unsuccessful. Some jurisdictions don't allow this, but often while non doctors cannot be sued because of these 'Good Samaritan' laws, doctors can still be. And when you're in the air, it's not always clear what jurisdiction you are in.
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"in board"
Words hard, apparently.
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The penis is attached to:
whoopsie doodle. nothing now
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Last time I recall flying Spirit (which was many years ago) at the end of the flight, the attendant gave the whole speech about "thank you for flying Spirit Airlines, America's premiere budget airline" or whatever it is they say.
From the back of the plane I hear a voice call out "...you charged me for water!"
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It's not really about being paid, it's about being covered by malpractice insurance which typically only happens for paid services. Yes people or people's families regularly sue doctors when treatment is unsuccessful. Some jurisdictions don't allow this, but often while non doctors cannot be sued because of these 'Good Samaritan' laws, doctors can still be. And when you're in the air, it's not always clear what jurisdiction you are in.
Seems like a contradictory explanation.
If malpractice insurance doesn’t apply because you are not practicing, wouldn’t Good Samaritan kick in cause you’re just a member of the public during the situation?
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Never met an intern?
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Most doctors won't admit to being a doctor in such circumstances anyway. If they do, they become responsible for the patient for the duration of the trip, and they don't get paid. They may have to make a call whether to emergency land early (pissing off everyone on the plane any delaying their own plans) or risking the life of the patient. It's a no win situation.
and clearly by flying spirit they don't make sound life decisions.
however, same can be said for the doctor.... so maybe they will speak up?
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You can do CPR without saying you're a doctor which is really all you can do in that situation. So maybe your friend is just a piece of shit?
by performing any medical intervention you are responsible for the care of the individual. this includes if you aren't even a doctor and are simply first aid certified.
don't blame the doctors, blame the politicians and lawyers who made the laws.
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It's not really about being paid, it's about being covered by malpractice insurance which typically only happens for paid services. Yes people or people's families regularly sue doctors when treatment is unsuccessful. Some jurisdictions don't allow this, but often while non doctors cannot be sued because of these 'Good Samaritan' laws, doctors can still be. And when you're in the air, it's not always clear what jurisdiction you are in.
In Canada all provinces have some form of Good Samaritan law which means that you aren't responsible other than gross negligence. So any off-duty doctor would be very safe to help out unless they were doing something very stupid.
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