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GOP Senator Calls for Nuking Filibuster to Fund DHS After Attempted Trump Killing

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      I was worried this might happen after Trump was wailing about the Filibuster the other day. If only Dems had more than 48 seats in the last 13 years maybe we could have done something about all this.

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        triumph@fedia.io
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        Reichstag fire

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          who@feddit.org
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          Raise your hand if you suspect the shooter incident was more like an orchestrated fundraiser.

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            akh@lemmy.world
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            Yeah, fake attempt

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              immutable@lemmy.zip
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              This assassination attempt was almost definitely a false flag.

              Let’s, for sake of argument, say it wasn’t.

              The location has plenty of security, security that successfully stopped the gunman.

              In what world would this mean “obviously we need more security.” The security worked, it has enough funding, also the thing that protects the president is the secret service which is part of the department of the treasury, not DHS.

              So the secret service did their job and stopped a threat and for some reason that means we should give an unrelated part of the government more money.

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                kreskin@lemmy.world
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                They were always going to nuke the filibuster during trumps term. I'm shocked it lasted this long. This whole thing is starting to look like a big coordinated plan. Just hard to see what the end game would be.

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                  Raise your hand if you suspect the shooter incident was more like an orchestrated fundraiser.

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                  kreskin@lemmy.world
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                  Some stuff is floating around showing a spike in searches for the shooters name from Israel before the attack. Could be BS.

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/MeidasTouch/comments/1sw7dr6/cole_tomas_allens_name_searched_over_100_times_24/

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                    I was worried this might happen after Trump was wailing about the Filibuster the other day. If only Dems had more than 48 seats in the last 13 years maybe we could have done something about all this.

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                    kreskin@lemmy.world
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                    If Biden hadnt supported aipac's favorite genocide we all wouldnt be in this mess. But the money was just too good for Biden and almost everyone else in congress -- on both sides of the aisle-- to pass up. So here we are.

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                      mrsulu@lemmy.ml
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                      How would a bulletproof room at your home protect you whilst you're out for dinner?

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                        They can do this whenever they would like to with a simple majority vote.

                        They call this "the nuclear option" today, because Trent Lott (notorious Republican) came up with the term; it works well for suppression of bills and scaring the proles, so bOtH pArTiEs have used the term ever since.

                        What did they call "the nuclear option" before Trent Lott (R.)? The constitutional option. not the same ring to it...

                        ... and all to avoid the threat of filibuster... let them filibuster. They have five months off a year, they can always catch up. I posit that the vast majority of members who threaten filibuster are far too lazy and old to actually do it. Much of the "old guard" are over 70 years old, something like 120!

                        Anyways, they use this "nuclear option" to bypass the threat of a filibuster, and do this whenever they really want something to pass; then, it only needs a simple majority vote.

                        This parliamentary rule confuses the vast majority of people.

                        Remember, they can always pass a bill with a simple majority vote (that's what makes Biden's failure to raise minimum wage so frustrating), and even if they couldn't, they don't bother to filibuster any longer. Stop playing pretend.

                        They're doing the absolute minimum amount of politics so that they have more time to trade stocks and attend "seminars" in The Virgin Islands on the taxpayer's dime.

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                          If Biden hadnt supported aipac's favorite genocide we all wouldnt be in this mess. But the money was just too good for Biden and almost everyone else in congress -- on both sides of the aisle-- to pass up. So here we are.

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                          finitebanjo@feddit.online
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                          Biden was way too lenient with Israel, but he very demonstrably kept aid flowing into Gaza and withheld large bomb shipments as Israel closed in on population centers, reportedly yelled at Netanyahu over the phone and was always fighting for a ceasefire which included the terms of hostage release which China vetoed in the UN.

                          Unfortunately he kept selling all other arms to Israel with emergency powers and his admin vetoed all other ceasefire terms.

                          Regardless, anybody who truly cares about even a single Palestinian life needs to vote out the GOP by any means necessary.

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                            santa@sh.itjust.works
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                            Go ahead. It will be gone for good. For better or for worse, however you view better or worse.

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                              This assassination attempt was almost definitely a false flag.

                              Let’s, for sake of argument, say it wasn’t.

                              The location has plenty of security, security that successfully stopped the gunman.

                              In what world would this mean “obviously we need more security.” The security worked, it has enough funding, also the thing that protects the president is the secret service which is part of the department of the treasury, not DHS.

                              So the secret service did their job and stopped a threat and for some reason that means we should give an unrelated part of the government more money.

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                              On March 1, 2003, the Secret Service was transferred from the Department of the Treasury to the new Department of Homeland Security.

                              Also this.

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                                They were always going to nuke the filibuster during trumps term. I'm shocked it lasted this long. This whole thing is starting to look like a big coordinated plan. Just hard to see what the end game would be.

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                                guyfawkesv@lemmy.world
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                                No filibuster = SAVE America Act passes

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                                  Yeah, fake attempt

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                                  0li0li@lemmy.world
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                                  For sure, but not to MAGAts and a couple million more idiots with the right to vote...

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                                  • I immutable@lemmy.zip

                                    This assassination attempt was almost definitely a false flag.

                                    Let’s, for sake of argument, say it wasn’t.

                                    The location has plenty of security, security that successfully stopped the gunman.

                                    In what world would this mean “obviously we need more security.” The security worked, it has enough funding, also the thing that protects the president is the secret service which is part of the department of the treasury, not DHS.

                                    So the secret service did their job and stopped a threat and for some reason that means we should give an unrelated part of the government more money.

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                                      They can do this whenever they would like to with a simple majority vote.

                                      They call this "the nuclear option" today, because Trent Lott (notorious Republican) came up with the term; it works well for suppression of bills and scaring the proles, so bOtH pArTiEs have used the term ever since.

                                      What did they call "the nuclear option" before Trent Lott (R.)? The constitutional option. not the same ring to it...

                                      ... and all to avoid the threat of filibuster... let them filibuster. They have five months off a year, they can always catch up. I posit that the vast majority of members who threaten filibuster are far too lazy and old to actually do it. Much of the "old guard" are over 70 years old, something like 120!

                                      Anyways, they use this "nuclear option" to bypass the threat of a filibuster, and do this whenever they really want something to pass; then, it only needs a simple majority vote.

                                      This parliamentary rule confuses the vast majority of people.

                                      Remember, they can always pass a bill with a simple majority vote (that's what makes Biden's failure to raise minimum wage so frustrating), and even if they couldn't, they don't bother to filibuster any longer. Stop playing pretend.

                                      They're doing the absolute minimum amount of politics so that they have more time to trade stocks and attend "seminars" in The Virgin Islands on the taxpayer's dime.

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                                      cubism_pitta@lemmy.world
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                                      Exactly. at the end of the filibuster... THEY VOTE!

                                      The filibuster needs 2/3 to break but it always ends eventually, and then it's a simple majority.

                                      All of congress just use this as a boogeyman for people who have never studied the rules.

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                                        The National Guard never stopped patrolling the streets of Washington DC. The DC police has been placed under federal control. The president himself has called Washington DC "perhaps the safest" city in the United States.

                                        If there's a "moment of national danger" happening under those circumstances, maybe it's not resources that are the problem. Maybe leadership is the problem.

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                                          noforwadslashs@piefed.social
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                                          You can really get anything done if you just arrest one guy near a government function.

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