<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore]]></title><description><![CDATA[<em>This post did not contain any content.</em>]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/topic/a7fc9b54-1c48-4da5-8525-87a3fe511413/browsing-ain-t-fun-anymore</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Sun, 24 May 2026 17:45:57 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://polykyklo.gr/topic/a7fc9b54-1c48-4da5-8525-87a3fe511413.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2026 20:38:48 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Thu, 30 Apr 2026 07:10:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Cloudflare is great compared to Recaptcha.</p>
<p dir="auto">Anubis is the best by far.</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.ca/comment/23019997</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.ca/comment/23019997</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mecen@lemmy.ca]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 07:10:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 18:23:09 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The repo credits a real artist for the anubis image</p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://github.com/TecharoHQ/anubis/blob/main/web/static/img/ATTRIBUTIONS.txt" rel="nofollow ugc">https://github.com/TecharoHQ/anubis/blob/main/web/static/img/ATTRIBUTIONS.txt</a></p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23471350</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23471350</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[snowdriftissue@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 18:23:09 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 18:01:40 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43473000" rel="nofollow ugc">HN comment which makes your point but is better worded</a></p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://programming.dev/comment/23554535</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://programming.dev/comment/23554535</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[eah@programming.dev]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 18:01:40 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 16:28:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">it kinda does when the web is being scraped by bots to fuel the LLMs</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/20278192</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/20278192</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 16:28:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 15:36:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Looks way better than half the ads I normally see.</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://europe.pub/comment/7261818</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://europe.pub/comment/7261818</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hrabiavulpes@europe.pub]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 15:36:12 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 15:30:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Oh man. Those people are so gd cringe it IS hilarious.</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/20277460</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/20277460</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[scmstr@lemmy.blahaj.zone]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 15:30:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 15:13:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Unfortunately, yes it does. Unless I want it to collapse regularly.</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://jlai.lu/comment/20810478</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://jlai.lu/comment/20810478</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hylobates@jlai.lu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 15:13:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 15:08:37 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">If you're going to increase my compute to access your site, at least give me a crypto token that may or may not be worth anything</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.zip/comment/26175639</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.zip/comment/26175639</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[spicehoarder@lemmy.zip]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 15:08:37 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:55:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Watch out, you'll anger the hive mind.</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.zip/comment/26175421</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.zip/comment/26175421</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[spicehoarder@lemmy.zip]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:55:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:43:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">While I despise the captchas from a human perspective, the fact that an LLM can solve the challenge isn't a deal breaker.  It doesn't need to be impossible for a non-human to solve, it just has to be too expensive.</p>
<p dir="auto">It does certainly shift the equation to stuff like proof of work since a computer can solve it <em>anyway</em>, might as well not annoy the human.</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23468087</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23468087</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jj4211@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:43:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:42:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">your blog does not need an anime girl web ai firewall utility</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23468078</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23468078</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[pmjv@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:42:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:37:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Seems utterly pointless though...</p>
<p dir="auto">With the proof of work approach, at least it's demanding the client consume some resources, though the 'right' amount is a tricky question, either it's so trivial as to hardly matter to the scrapers, or it's hard enough to put a dent in the scrapers' build, but human operated low end devices are royally screwed..</p>
<p dir="auto">Here the crawler simply schedules a resumption and moves on to other work.  The crawler doesn't need it <em>right now</em> and it's free for it to wait.</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23467999</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23467999</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jj4211@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:37:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:32:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Yeah, seems like the problem is that fundamentally it <em>could</em> work by upping the difficulty a smidge making it then meaningfully expensive, but the spread between slowest edge device and high end means it's impossible to chase that difficulty without screwing over low end device users..</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23467922</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23467922</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[jj4211@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:32:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:09:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Much better than cludflare and Google recapha</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.ca/comment/23006809</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.ca/comment/23006809</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mecen@lemmy.ca]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:09:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:14:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">funner fact: anubis itself is slop</p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://github.com/TecharoHQ/anubis/blob/main/AGENTS.md" rel="nofollow ugc">https://github.com/TecharoHQ/anubis/blob/main/AGENTS.md</a></p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/25783972</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/25783972</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[ruby@lemmy.dbzer0.com]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:14:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 13:08:44 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a href="https://lock.cmpxchg8b.com/anubis.html" rel="nofollow ugc">You're right</a>, although my understanding is that there are a lot of poorly implemented scrapers for AI services unintentionally DDoSing websites with requests, so Anubis is more of a mitigation against those.</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://programming.dev/comment/23549915</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://programming.dev/comment/23549915</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[softwarist@programming.dev]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 13:08:44 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 12:25:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Im a narcissist. Im god</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23466058</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23466058</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[gonzako@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 12:25:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 12:17:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I am skeptical about the real level of protection that Anubis really provides.</p>
<p dir="auto">At the end is an automated test. Meaning that any machine could easily solve it.</p>
<p dir="auto">Most "attackers" wont bother solving it because they don't really care. But if they would want they could. It's sort of protection by obscurity.</p>
<p dir="auto">The more Anubis it's used the more we see attacks that actually equip a way to solve the challenges. Then is when Anubis up the challenge and the battle begin, between how much can Anubis up the challenge so normal users can still browse and how much cost the attacker is willing to eat.</p>
<p dir="auto">Giving that these attackers tend to have high budgets I'm not that certain about its actual capabilities to reject a targeted ddos.</p>
<p dir="auto">As for crawling for big data. I do think that it does nothing here. Companies willing yo scrape big amounts of data, for AI training or other purposes, have massive budgets and the electricity cost of solving the JavaScript challenges become nothing in comparison. They also doesn't need ro deny the service so they could spread the scrape to keep the challenge low reducing the cost even more.</p>
<p dir="auto">Once again, positive results we currently see in practice I believe that are caused just because most scrappers and ddos attackers are just blindly attacking and doesn't really equip themselves for Anubis. Protection by obscurity. But a well equiped attacker I don't think it would have that much trouble getting past it, specially for scrapping, or other type of bot attacks that could be slowed down.</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/25782623</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/25782623</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 12:17:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 12:04:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">That's just protection by obscurity then. Any targeted attack could do that challenge at zero cost.</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/25782455</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/25782455</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 12:04:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 12:03:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Both have different purposes.</p>
<p dir="auto">The Anubis challenge could be easily and cheapely solved by any JavaScript engine. It only becomes expensive for a massive number of petitions.</p>
<p dir="auto">If for instance you would want to register a few thousand emails in a forum anubis is not going to stop anyone.</p>
<p dir="auto">In fact I'm sceptical about really having an impact. As even when the challenge goes up in difficulty is not that expensive compared with all other cost related to these kinds of attacks or massive scrapes.</p>
<p dir="auto">My suspicion is that most websites using Anubis see a positive impact because most crawlers and probers doesn't take into account Anubis, so they don't even attach a way to solve the challenge and they directly go into the "rejected by anubis" bucket. But any targeted attack I suppose would pass easily, either by doing a slow attack not to up the challenge very much, or just eating the cost. Imagine an AI company that using nuclear plants for training data, the cost of solving a few million JavaScript challenges is nothing in comparison.</p>
<p dir="auto">As a DDOS mitigation it helps, but once again it's just a matter of eating the cost by the attacker. And the attack will still deny some service as the challenge go up and new legit users would also need to solve harder challenges.</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/25782407</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/25782407</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 12:03:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:25:26 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Which god? Anubis.</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23465334</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23465334</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[terdferguson@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:25:26 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:21:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Jackal girl.</p>
<p dir="auto">Anubis weighs the soul of your connection.</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23465299</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23465299</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[terdferguson@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:21:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:08:59 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Thank god we have anubis</p>
]]></description><link>https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23465158</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://polykyklo.gr/post/https://lemmy.world/comment/23465158</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[gonzako@lemmy.world]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 11:08:59 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Browsing ain&#x27;t fun anymore on Wed, 29 Apr 2026 10:21:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Nothing but them respectfully asking not to do this, pointing out that they will help you do it if you pay a contribution.</p>
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