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Trump administration to prioritise seeking death penalty, use firing squads

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  • hellsbelle@sh.itjust.worksH hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

    The administration of United States President Donald Trump has announced plans to expand the use of the federal death penalty, including through the deployment of firing squads.

    The announcement on Friday was part of a policy document issued by the Department of Justice, setting out the legal argument for various methods of execution.

    It touted steps for “restoring and strengthening” the death penalty as integral to the pursuit of justice.

    “The Department of Justice acted to restore its solemn duty to seek, obtain, and implement lawful capital sentences — clearing the way for the Department to carry out executions once death-sentenced inmates have exhausted their appeals,” the Justice Department said in a news release.

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    la508@lemmy.world
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    The death penalty is anathema to civilised society.

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    • M mbech@feddit.dk

      I have absolutely no faith anyone will ever give these psychos any consequenses, especially not any democrat. That would mean they themselves would be open to consequenses, and that simply won't do for the ruling class. The worst that is ever going to happen to Trump through legal and peaceful means, is that he'll be sentenced to house arrest at Mar-a-lago, and even that is doubtful. Any other punishment will have to be done by the people.

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      echodot@feddit.uk
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      Hell it's a toss-up whether or not he'll survive until the election. He's under assault from both the outside and his own body. It's just a question of what gets to him first a bullet or the dementia.

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      • H hubertmanne@piefed.social

        also that countries that work to reduce violence like this and disparity is actually advancing. theory crafting societies of violence is just never going to work out in any long term way.

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        echodot@feddit.uk
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        This is why I am disinclined to believe in secret government conspiracies. None of the actions of the current administration are clever or indicative of a larger long-term strategy, they're all short-term plans that mostly exist so they can feel big and important when they announce them, rather than because they will necessarily achieve anything.

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        • C cmbabul@slrpnk.net

          Firing squads are too clean, I want gallows, I want gallows run by someone who ain’t any count at running a gallows, so they all die in terrible ways

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          echodot@feddit.uk
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          Even the gallows is probably too good for them. There's plenty of YA novels to draw inspiration from, let's do some Hunger games like thing.

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          • E echodot@feddit.uk

            Hell it's a toss-up whether or not he'll survive until the election. He's under assault from both the outside and his own body. It's just a question of what gets to him first a bullet or the dementia.

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            wewbull@feddit.uk
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            ...or the McDonald's.

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            • hellsbelle@sh.itjust.worksH hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

              The administration of United States President Donald Trump has announced plans to expand the use of the federal death penalty, including through the deployment of firing squads.

              The announcement on Friday was part of a policy document issued by the Department of Justice, setting out the legal argument for various methods of execution.

              It touted steps for “restoring and strengthening” the death penalty as integral to the pursuit of justice.

              “The Department of Justice acted to restore its solemn duty to seek, obtain, and implement lawful capital sentences — clearing the way for the Department to carry out executions once death-sentenced inmates have exhausted their appeals,” the Justice Department said in a news release.

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              lanske@lemmy.world
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              Will they start with child rapists?!

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              • B billyclark@piefed.social

                Whenever capital punishment comes up, I am reminded of the hypocrisy of American Christians.

                Pretty much every Christian claims to believe that killing is prohibited by the ten commandments. In a democracy, if you vote for a politician who supports the death penalty, you are asking them to kill a person on your behalf. A Christian should not be able to vote for a politician who supports the death penalty.

                Compare that with abortion. The bible says virtually nothing about abortion except how to pray for one. If you vote for a pro-choice politician, nobody is being killed on your behalf.

                Compare these two, and it's obvious that a Christian who votes for a pro-death-penalty and anti-abortion candidate is voting against their own religion. But they claim to be voting for Christian values, which is pure hypocrisy.

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                prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                The bible says virtually nothing about abortion except how to pray for one.

                It actually literally has a recipe for it

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                • P prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                  The bible says virtually nothing about abortion except how to pray for one.

                  It actually literally has a recipe for it

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                  rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world
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                  It actually says no, no less than three times, that life begins at the first breath, thereby obliterating 90% of the anti abortion talking points.

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                  • lanske@lemmy.worldL lanske@lemmy.world

                    Will they start with child rapists?!

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                    frightful5680@lemmy.world
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                    Nope just immigrants

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                    • chaoticentropy@feddit.ukC chaoticentropy@feddit.uk

                      Nothing should be a clearer indication that the death penalty should not exist than lunatics like him controlling it.

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                      frightful5680@lemmy.world
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                      It's funny how all the countries with autocrats or legal corruption love the death penalty

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                      • hellsbelle@sh.itjust.worksH hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

                        The administration of United States President Donald Trump has announced plans to expand the use of the federal death penalty, including through the deployment of firing squads.

                        The announcement on Friday was part of a policy document issued by the Department of Justice, setting out the legal argument for various methods of execution.

                        It touted steps for “restoring and strengthening” the death penalty as integral to the pursuit of justice.

                        “The Department of Justice acted to restore its solemn duty to seek, obtain, and implement lawful capital sentences — clearing the way for the Department to carry out executions once death-sentenced inmates have exhausted their appeals,” the Justice Department said in a news release.

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                        melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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                        Don't let the trump folk know about being "drawn and quartered". Those fuckers will jump on that like white on rice. Can you say "trump/epstein" files?

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                        • W wewbull@feddit.uk

                          ...or the McDonald's.

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                          mousepotatodoesstuff@lemmy.world
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                          Probably the McDonald's. After all, it has already infiltrated the Pentagon.

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                          • zak@lemmy.worldZ zak@lemmy.world

                            If I supported capital punishment, I'd be in favor of firing squads over lethal injection. It's more honest. Shooting someone is clearly meant to kill while lethal injection dresses it up like a medical procedure.

                            I oppose capital punishment though. The criminal justice system is not reliable enough to only punish those truly guilty of the worst crimes, it doesn't seem to be a more effective deterrent than imprisonment, and it usually ends up costing more than imprisonment for an offender's natural lifespan.

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                            mousepotatodoesstuff@lemmy.world
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                            It's not even reliable to REACH those truly guilty of the worst crimes, it seems.

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                            • E echodot@feddit.uk

                              This is why I am disinclined to believe in secret government conspiracies. None of the actions of the current administration are clever or indicative of a larger long-term strategy, they're all short-term plans that mostly exist so they can feel big and important when they announce them, rather than because they will necessarily achieve anything.

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                              nomy@lemmy.zip
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                              Secret conspiracies definitely exist but I agree this particular administration is too inept to keep anything under wraps.

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                              • G givesomefucks@lemmy.world

                                ignores the possibility of the existence of acts which may never be ethical under any circumstance.

                                Name 1, and I bet I can justify it ethically.

                                Like, "if you don't do ____, then superman blows up the sun" is the obvious one, but depending on what you say, I can dial back some.

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                                nomy@lemmy.zip
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                                Name 1, and I bet I can justify it ethically.

                                Trump fucks kids, go.

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                                  Don't let the trump folk know about being "drawn and quartered". Those fuckers will jump on that like white on rice. Can you say "trump/epstein" files?

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                                  islandcoda42@lemmy.zip
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                                  Or the Blood Eagle execution the Vikings used to do, yikes 😳

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                                  • P partial_accumen@lemmy.world

                                    Who would do the actual shooting though? For me this presents a problem. It can go two ways:

                                    • We have to employ someone that doesn't want to kill people, but does it anyway in an act of duty while suffering the psychological trauma every time they do their job.

                                    Or even worse...

                                    • We have to employ someone that does want to kill people, and we're paying them to do it.
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                                    fiona@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    We have to employ someone that does want to kill people, and we're paying them to do it.

                                    Honestly: While it may feel wrong, and requires some emotional distancing, if you start thinking about it rationally you’ll find that there isn’t really a fundamental problem with this one. Note that you gave an argument why the first case is bad but not for the second.

                                    If we think things through, the main issue we have with killing is that people whom we don’t want to die die; [while I reject capital punishment in the vast majority of cases](https://fiona.onl/positions.html#no-death-penalty-for-individual-crime), the assumption here is that we have made a decision that we want someone to die, so causing that person to die is within the deployed ethical framework not unethical.

                                    And if there is someone who wants to perform an act that is usually highly unethical, but in some instances is, according to the accepted ethical framework, not, then there isn’t really a clear issue to let that person do that thing in those cases, especially if others don’t want to do it.

                                    The issue here is the framework in which the death penalty is a commonly available punishment itself, not that some things feel wrong within that framework.

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                                    • J jtrek@startrek.website

                                      I hope this is foreshadowing for the trump regime being executed as war criminals.

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                                      turbosnail@piefed.europe.pub
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                                      Are we doing a rerun of the Ceaușesc Family. The season finale was worth watching.

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                                      • leoj@piefed.socialL leoj@piefed.social

                                        I think we are reaching a point where its an open secret that the words of Jesus are purely marketing for Christianity and the reality is quite uglier.

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                                        • R reachminusone@lemmy.zip

                                          Sounds like we need to resurrect this guy. He was allegedly pretty terrible at his job, and several of the individuals he hanged did not die a quick death.

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                                          w98bsod@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          Holy cow. This guy.

                                          “While changing a lightbulb and standing in a pool of water, Woods was accidentally electrocuted on July 21, 1950…”

                                          He’s a looney tunes character

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