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  3. ‘She’s opening the bees!’ US beekeeper jailed for trying to save friend from eviction | Massachusetts woman set swarms of insects on sheriff’s deputies attempting to evict elderly man with cancer

‘She’s opening the bees!’ US beekeeper jailed for trying to save friend from eviction | Massachusetts woman set swarms of insects on sheriff’s deputies attempting to evict elderly man with cancer

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  • F felixcress@lemmy.world

    So, why are the public authorities involved in private evictions at all?

    BTW:

    The court heard that Woods was told during the encounter that some deputies were allergic to bees, and that she replied: “Oh, you’re allergic? Good!”

    🤣🤣🤣

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    modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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    Cause you don't want private goons handling private evictions. They would be even less accountable if thats possible.

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      madbigote@lemmy.world
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      !! THE PAIN!!!

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      • F flyingcircus@lemmy.world

        Organize your community. It's super fucking hard because American's are alienated and atomized to fuck, but it doesn't even have to be political at first. Literally just get out of the house and join a group of people. Once you have some ties to your community, start talking to the group about politics. Or if you are lucky enough to live in an area that already has a socialist organization, join that. It all starts with community organization, which will take lots of time, maybe even more time than our lifetimes. But one fact is undeniably true: society will never get better if we all just keep doing our own thing.

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        jj4211@lemmy.world
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        Ok, but even granting that in theory could eventually render the how evictions work question moot, so that we don't even have to think about whether police would be in that position in not, it's not a practical answer in this specific context.

        Until you get rid of evictions, of the bad options law enforcement is one of the less bad options. We shouldn't let evictions happen the worst way possible just because we are holding out for the perfect scenario where evictions don't exist.

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        • J jj4211@lemmy.world

          Ok, but even granting that in theory could eventually render the how evictions work question moot, so that we don't even have to think about whether police would be in that position in not, it's not a practical answer in this specific context.

          Until you get rid of evictions, of the bad options law enforcement is one of the less bad options. We shouldn't let evictions happen the worst way possible just because we are holding out for the perfect scenario where evictions don't exist.

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          flyingcircus@lemmy.world
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          I mean ok, but also realistically the political will to change how evictions work not only doesn’t exist, but it literally can’t exist under capitalism. The state serves money, and all of the people with money are happy with how evictions work.

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          • M modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world

            I disagree that she did nothing wrong. If one of those cops was allergic, she could have killed them. They did claim one was and she responded "good". Just like we say that cops are wrong for escalating and causing the death of people for minor offenses, the same is wrong here. And this was premeditated. The crime the cops were potentially(I don't know the back story) committing does not fit the punishment. Plus she could have gotten herself killed. The fact that they didn't shoot her implies these may even have been some of the few cops that show some restraint. If it had been ICE they would have opened fire immediately. So at the very least, potential getting killed would make what she did wrong.

            The real crime lies with the judge who signed off on the eviction. The cops likely had no idea of the background of the person they were evicting when they showed up.

            There are surely better ways to attempt to obstruct an eviction.

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            fedizen@lemmy.world
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            #65

            I'm not going to poopoo on people for attempting to do the right thing in the moment. Obviously nobody died. Obviously the entire chain of events on the legal side from the landlord to the lawyers to the judges to the law enforcement doing the dirty work all stinks.

            I don't think there's any point to sending this woman to jail, she obviously did what she could to disrupt the banality of evil going on. If the cop had died she would have seen bigger charges but imo this kind of pushback is necessary so that law enforcement IS afraid to do evil things.

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              moakley@lemmy.world
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              From Mouse Guard, by David Petersen. I just read this one last night.

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              • F foxwolf@pawb.social

                I agree with you but a few bee stings have definitely killed a lot of people.

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                innermachine@lemmy.world
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                So have "less than lethal" rounds. Pigs won't hesitate to use violence on you when you are in the right so why shouldn't you return the favor? If you keep letting bullies beat up kids with no repercussions do you think they have motivation to stop?

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                • M modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world

                  I disagree that she did nothing wrong. If one of those cops was allergic, she could have killed them. They did claim one was and she responded "good". Just like we say that cops are wrong for escalating and causing the death of people for minor offenses, the same is wrong here. And this was premeditated. The crime the cops were potentially(I don't know the back story) committing does not fit the punishment. Plus she could have gotten herself killed. The fact that they didn't shoot her implies these may even have been some of the few cops that show some restraint. If it had been ICE they would have opened fire immediately. So at the very least, potential getting killed would make what she did wrong.

                  The real crime lies with the judge who signed off on the eviction. The cops likely had no idea of the background of the person they were evicting when they showed up.

                  There are surely better ways to attempt to obstruct an eviction.

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                  possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  If you think cops aren't absolutely giddy at the thought of using violence against anyone and everyone, then I have a bridge to sell you.

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                    raiderkev@lemmy.world
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                    That Sheriff probably

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                    • M modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world

                      I disagree that she did nothing wrong. If one of those cops was allergic, she could have killed them. They did claim one was and she responded "good". Just like we say that cops are wrong for escalating and causing the death of people for minor offenses, the same is wrong here. And this was premeditated. The crime the cops were potentially(I don't know the back story) committing does not fit the punishment. Plus she could have gotten herself killed. The fact that they didn't shoot her implies these may even have been some of the few cops that show some restraint. If it had been ICE they would have opened fire immediately. So at the very least, potential getting killed would make what she did wrong.

                      The real crime lies with the judge who signed off on the eviction. The cops likely had no idea of the background of the person they were evicting when they showed up.

                      There are surely better ways to attempt to obstruct an eviction.

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                      ferrous@lemmy.ml
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                      Meh. Lot of handwringing for the cops, but where's the handwringing for the cancer patient? Who's to say the patient wasn't immunocompromised, and that going outdoors could be a death sentence?

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                      • F foxwolf@pawb.social

                        I agree with you but a few bee stings have definitely killed a lot of people.

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                        ragingrobot@lemmy.world
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                        Like that kid in my girl!

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                          ragingrobot@lemmy.world
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                            billcheddar@lemmy.world
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                            Imagine reading this story and thinking the cops are the good guys.

                            Goddamn conservatives need to be removed from society.

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                            • M modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world

                              I disagree that she did nothing wrong. If one of those cops was allergic, she could have killed them. They did claim one was and she responded "good". Just like we say that cops are wrong for escalating and causing the death of people for minor offenses, the same is wrong here. And this was premeditated. The crime the cops were potentially(I don't know the back story) committing does not fit the punishment. Plus she could have gotten herself killed. The fact that they didn't shoot her implies these may even have been some of the few cops that show some restraint. If it had been ICE they would have opened fire immediately. So at the very least, potential getting killed would make what she did wrong.

                              The real crime lies with the judge who signed off on the eviction. The cops likely had no idea of the background of the person they were evicting when they showed up.

                              There are surely better ways to attempt to obstruct an eviction.

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                              magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                              #74

                              Enforcing eviction noticed isn't a "minor offense".

                              Landlords deserve the woodchipper.

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                                Like that kid in my girl!

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                                texas_hangover@lemmy.radio
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                                Who's in your girl?

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                                • M modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world

                                  I disagree that she did nothing wrong. If one of those cops was allergic, she could have killed them. They did claim one was and she responded "good". Just like we say that cops are wrong for escalating and causing the death of people for minor offenses, the same is wrong here. And this was premeditated. The crime the cops were potentially(I don't know the back story) committing does not fit the punishment. Plus she could have gotten herself killed. The fact that they didn't shoot her implies these may even have been some of the few cops that show some restraint. If it had been ICE they would have opened fire immediately. So at the very least, potential getting killed would make what she did wrong.

                                  The real crime lies with the judge who signed off on the eviction. The cops likely had no idea of the background of the person they were evicting when they showed up.

                                  There are surely better ways to attempt to obstruct an eviction.

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                                  black0ut@pawb.social
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                                  "Won't somebody think of the poor cops abusing civilians for their epstein class overlords"

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                                  • R ragingrobot@lemmy.world

                                    Like that kid in my girl!

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                                    foxwolf@pawb.social
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                                    Αυτή η δημοσίευση έχει διαγραφεί!
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                                    • I innermachine@lemmy.world

                                      So have "less than lethal" rounds. Pigs won't hesitate to use violence on you when you are in the right so why shouldn't you return the favor? If you keep letting bullies beat up kids with no repercussions do you think they have motivation to stop?

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                                      foxwolf@pawb.social
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                                      Hey I said I agree with the guy and that bees have killed people... I have no idea how they affect pigs. Probably fine, let em have it

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                                      • M modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world

                                        I disagree that she did nothing wrong. If one of those cops was allergic, she could have killed them. They did claim one was and she responded "good". Just like we say that cops are wrong for escalating and causing the death of people for minor offenses, the same is wrong here. And this was premeditated. The crime the cops were potentially(I don't know the back story) committing does not fit the punishment. Plus she could have gotten herself killed. The fact that they didn't shoot her implies these may even have been some of the few cops that show some restraint. If it had been ICE they would have opened fire immediately. So at the very least, potential getting killed would make what she did wrong.

                                        The real crime lies with the judge who signed off on the eviction. The cops likely had no idea of the background of the person they were evicting when they showed up.

                                        There are surely better ways to attempt to obstruct an eviction.

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                                        backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
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                                        If one of those cops was allergic, she could have killed them.

                                        I have more sympathy for the bee that dies because to sting is fatal. The loss of a pollinator is a loss for the world, the loss of a cop is… meh, some other asshole will sign up for the badge.

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