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When I was quite a bit younger I used to argue against young Earth creationists online. Eventually I came to mostly the same conclusion: there's just so much wrong with everything they believe, there's nowhere to even begin taking it all apart. No amount of reason will cut through their faith.
That's why you shouldn't talk with them, but rather the lurkers in the forum that might still have a chance.
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I feel seen!
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I feel seen!
Got you bud
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My best friend recently told me :
"Did you see the image of the original moon landing ? It looks so so fake"
I was shocked. An engineer with supposedly a scientific background was starting to take on conspiracy theories.
I just said that the moon landing was not fake and that it would have been impossible to fake something on this scale and that there was plenty of documentation about the Apollo mission online.
But I feel sad because it's obvious his social network interactions online are pushing him toward very toxic content.
I wouldn’t put it past the US government to pull some shenanigans, and I certainly wouldn’t rule out the possibility that some aspect of it was a lie. That being said, I have yet to see any evidence that it was faked that isn’t simply a misunderstanding of the science.
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My best friend recently told me :
"Did you see the image of the original moon landing ? It looks so so fake"
I was shocked. An engineer with supposedly a scientific background was starting to take on conspiracy theories.
I just said that the moon landing was not fake and that it would have been impossible to fake something on this scale and that there was plenty of documentation about the Apollo mission online.
But I feel sad because it's obvious his social network interactions online are pushing him toward very toxic content.
Conspiracy theories are fun to listen to, but you have to be careful not to believe them. I grew up on Bigfoot and UFO stories (being near Mendocino and having farm family does that to you) but, well aside from the family Bigfoot pranks we were very clear it was all make believe.
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That's why I always wear two pair of socks.
And two pairs of undies in case one gets dirty
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I heard in a pobcast he's vegetarian, too.
edit: A pobcast isn't a thing. But it should be.
It is now. Rule 34 dude
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I’ve tried planting the seed a few times with people who voluntarily wiretap their own house with an Alexa. Each time they’ve picked it up and ran further with it, like “Oh I know! If I mention seat belt covers, suddenly amazon is recommending a bunch of seat belt covers in my home page!” No thoughts at all of doing anything with this conclusion.
I’ve also witnessed planting the seed working in plenty of other scenarios, just thought this particular fumble was common and particularly funny.
So I have this really creepy picture someone painted of Jesus. It's eyes follow you wherever you go I wish I knew how to do that anyways my neighbors are very funny. They put that picture of Jesus on their wiretap.
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I like to just plant a little seed in moments like this. Even if you just feign ignorance and ask a Socratic question or two... Get their little grey cells working in their sleep maybe. You never know
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It's rare to find people who are actually interested in learning anything, most will just parrot something they've heard in passing or rely on gut feeling, and if your fact goes against their made up assumption then they will deny what you say rather than look it up and learn, because being seen to not know something hurts their feelings.
You gotta switch their gears from defense ive/debate mode before they'll even consider what you have to say.
Even then you won't see the positive change in the moment. It'll come 2 years later while they're drying their hair and it all clicks
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Actually science has proven that so you take in all knowledge throughout your entire life and the moment you are introduced a fact you will instantly change your mind on all related information.
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At work, the team isn't very good at python. They're mostly SQL people. Which is fine. I'm happy to mentor and guide.
The product lady said to me "can you write a guide on confluence about how to do python good?"
I'm like, people write whole published books about that you gotta pay money for. I'm not going to bang out a couple paragraphs and code blocks and suddenly people are heavy weights.
I wrote something anyway because I don't want to further irritate the product lady.
Sounds like a perfect job for oneshotting LLM prompt and direct copy-paste without looking at the results.
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To extend the "planting the seed" metaphor a bit...
Some people try to plant seeds on other peoples minds and let them grow like beautiful flowers.
Some people try to facefuck other people and plant their seeds deep in their throats.
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Knowing how to plant the seed is crucial too.
The best way I've found is to just ask questions like you don't understand the topic but are interested in learning more. Their logic is going to have holes, and you want to guide them into stumbling into one.
The hard part is asking probing questions without sounding like you're trying to pull a "gotcha".
Okay Socrates.
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Unfortunately, it would go right over their heads and they would just call you a creep, reinforcing their belief that you should be under constant surveillance...
And they'd probably go and put a ring camera in their bedroom... you know, for... privacy...
Yes. I use this on people, and some of them react positively, but even those dont care all that much. They understand the reasoning but the answer is still "I dont care".
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The wins just keep coming for homie.
Sympathetic edit: while I personally love crying, a 45 minute marathon of it seems a bit much.
Edit 2: oh my fucking god the myth, the legend the big ass name responded to me! I didn't even realize it was you. I'll stop gushing, but I feel blessed.
What an honor to be honored in a thread about an oscar winning actor.
I'm just a regular person who owns pants and tried cat food at least once like everybody else.
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if someone obviously is unreceptive to the idea that their blinding headlights are both unsafe and make them an asshole, there's a good chance that I'll just tell them that next time they're driving towards me at night I will intentionally drive head on into them, then walk away
I'll do what I can to politely educate them, but if they're not open to it then fuck it I'm just going to make the risk to them clear and end the conversation
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What an honor to be honored in a thread about an oscar winning actor.
I'm just a regular person who owns pants and tried cat food at least once like everybody else.
You earned it with the paper perpetua.
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I like to just plant a little seed in moments like this. Even if you just feign ignorance and ask a Socratic question or two... Get their little grey cells working in their sleep maybe. You never know
Might as well try it. The worst that'll happen is an idiot will stop talking to you about idiot things.
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To extend the "planting the seed" metaphor a bit...
Some people try to plant seeds on other peoples minds and let them grow like beautiful flowers.
Some people try to facefuck other people and plant their seeds deep in their throats.
Some people try to facefuck other people and plant their seeds deep in their throats.
This guy comes to mind. Pretty sure he'll never care to understand the ineffectiveness of his antagonistic approach, in fact his approach always has the opposite and worse effects than he purportedly crusades for.
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