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Lol what the fuck are you talking about? Have you seen any pictures of the protests here?
Countless people are aware, and literally screaming it not only at passerby's, but also at the actual fascists roaming or streets (ICE).
"Western" workers are furious, and loud right now. Why would you belittle that effort? Why downplay the struggle taking place, that is claiming the lives of those who care enough to stand up against this?
The people trying, and failing, to erase this are called conservatives. They are republicans, MAGA, and/or Christofascists. Name and shame, everyone.
Sorry, but the US 'protests' are a joke. You don't protest by dancing and cosplaying in front of a camera. You protest by shutting down infrastructure, in a peaceful but organised and disciplined manner, until your demands are satisfied.
I understand that there are limits to real protest in the US, and of course it would be silly to demand that anyone risk being shot. But don't call a party a 'protest'.
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They fact that America has no avenue for 'vote of no confidence' and government dissolution is astounding. Still, it's a good wake up call for the rest of the world to break ties and rethink alliances.
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They fact that America has no avenue for 'vote of no confidence' and government dissolution is astounding. Still, it's a good wake up call for the rest of the world to break ties and rethink alliances.
Actually we do have a mechanism for legally throwing everything out. It requires 2/3rds of all state governments to vote in favor of government reform. Then all of congress a the executive gets recalled and new elections are held across the country.
I’m sure it seemed like a great idea when there were 13 states. Unfortunately, we can’t currently get some states to agree that pasteurizing milk or having fluoride in water is a good thing, so I think it’s a bit late to try to get 33 states to agree to reforming the government.
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Sorry, but the US 'protests' are a joke. You don't protest by dancing and cosplaying in front of a camera. You protest by shutting down infrastructure, in a peaceful but organised and disciplined manner, until your demands are satisfied.
I understand that there are limits to real protest in the US, and of course it would be silly to demand that anyone risk being shot. But don't call a party a 'protest'.
You protest by shutting down infrastructure, in a peaceful but organised and disciplined manner, until your demands are satisfied.
You mean like a government shutdown?
In America, we can't just walk off the job, because we don't have unions, workers protections, or a worker-friendly government, like European countries. Our employers will just fire us if we try to organize a General Strike for a day. Besides, do you really think the Sociopathic MAGA party is going to have empathy for the self-inflicted pain of General Strikers, and change anything? They'll just laugh, literally.
But in America, we can shut down the government and hurt THEM, and it works, as long as our elected representatives can show the backbone that the citizens demand. Last Fall, the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries ended the Shutdown when it hit the airports, and became inconvenient for the Epstein Class, earning the anger of all of America, and probably dooming any chance they have of continuing in a leadership position after the Midterms. Today, they seemed to have learned their lesson, and they are holding tough on a partial shutdown that has denied ICE it's operating money, and it has succeeded in slowing them down a lot. A one-day General Strike would not have succeeded.
What works in Europe won't work in America, and vice versa. Why should we do a General Strike that hurts us, not them, and won't work, when we have the option of a Government Shutdown that hurts them, and not us, and has proven to work?
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They fact that America has no avenue for 'vote of no confidence' and government dissolution is astounding. Still, it's a good wake up call for the rest of the world to break ties and rethink alliances.
Perhaps you should read about our processes more
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You protest by shutting down infrastructure, in a peaceful but organised and disciplined manner, until your demands are satisfied.
You mean like a government shutdown?
In America, we can't just walk off the job, because we don't have unions, workers protections, or a worker-friendly government, like European countries. Our employers will just fire us if we try to organize a General Strike for a day. Besides, do you really think the Sociopathic MAGA party is going to have empathy for the self-inflicted pain of General Strikers, and change anything? They'll just laugh, literally.
But in America, we can shut down the government and hurt THEM, and it works, as long as our elected representatives can show the backbone that the citizens demand. Last Fall, the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries ended the Shutdown when it hit the airports, and became inconvenient for the Epstein Class, earning the anger of all of America, and probably dooming any chance they have of continuing in a leadership position after the Midterms. Today, they seemed to have learned their lesson, and they are holding tough on a partial shutdown that has denied ICE it's operating money, and it has succeeded in slowing them down a lot. A one-day General Strike would not have succeeded.
What works in Europe won't work in America, and vice versa. Why should we do a General Strike that hurts us, not them, and won't work, when we have the option of a Government Shutdown that hurts them, and not us, and has proven to work?
If you are protesting against the government, then you need to shut down all / most economic activity. Usually you do this by blocking roads, railway lines, etc., and by marching in large numbers. I get that this is difficult in the US because you'll get shot, but dancing and partying do not hurt the politicians or their owners, and so is just a waste of time.
Also I said nothing about going on strike, where did you get that from?
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If you are protesting against the government, then you need to shut down all / most economic activity. Usually you do this by blocking roads, railway lines, etc., and by marching in large numbers. I get that this is difficult in the US because you'll get shot, but dancing and partying do not hurt the politicians or their owners, and so is just a waste of time.
Also I said nothing about going on strike, where did you get that from?
Also I said nothing about going on strike, where did you get that from?
You said:
You protest by shutting down infrastructure, in a peaceful but organised and disciplined manner, until your demands are satisfied.
That sure sounds like a General Strike to me, and we are hearing constant calls for a General Strike, so it would be normal to assume that's what you were talking about.
I responded with my standard response to Europeans who don't understand that the work environment is far different in America, and a General Strike simply won't work, for numerous reasons.
In America, we have to know our enemy, and customize our protests to match. Right now, we view our enemy as clowns, which they are, but they see themselves as badass bullies, and nothing pisses off bullies more than laughing in their faces, and proving to them that you aren't afraid of them. Intimidation is their biggest weapon, and if that doesn't work, they usually have nothing to back it up.
They want us frightened, sad, intimidated, obedient. So showing MAGA that we don't fear them, that we think they are huge stupid losers, is an enormous psychological blow, to people with very damaged, very fragile psyches. These are people with massive mental illnesses and personality disorders, who think that their stolen MIGHT, which they have no idea how to wield, should be enough to make us obey. Instead of being intimidated, their enemy is throwing No Kings rallies that grow bigger and bigger, and is scaring the shit out of THEM.
They think we should be frightened of them, and we are literally laughing in their faces, and scaring them in return. Can you imagine how apoplectic they must get in the halls of the West Wing when they watch that video? I'd love to be there for it. I'll bet Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller gets really savage!
In the future, if MAGA decides, in their virtuosic incompetence, that it's time to start shooting protesters en masse, then the fun stops, and we will apply a different kind of resistance. Hopefully, we never make it past this humiliation stage.
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Perhaps you should read about our processes more
Well... I'm watching the shit show from the sidelines and in practice, regardless of whatever is written (full disclosure, I haven't read it nor do I really want to because it looks like a really, really high bar), there appears to be no double dissolution procedures.
This is because you have someone with very clear mental impairment still sitting as President doing all sorts of nonsense such as going against the very constitution you all swear by.
Further, he lost the popular vote but still won the election. Absolutely astounding.
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Actually we do have a mechanism for legally throwing everything out. It requires 2/3rds of all state governments to vote in favor of government reform. Then all of congress a the executive gets recalled and new elections are held across the country.
I’m sure it seemed like a great idea when there were 13 states. Unfortunately, we can’t currently get some states to agree that pasteurizing milk or having fluoride in water is a good thing, so I think it’s a bit late to try to get 33 states to agree to reforming the government.
Pfft flouride... We can't even get all the states to agree that women are people that deserve full rights... Daily reminder that Equal Rights Amendment still isn't in effect.
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Also I said nothing about going on strike, where did you get that from?
You said:
You protest by shutting down infrastructure, in a peaceful but organised and disciplined manner, until your demands are satisfied.
That sure sounds like a General Strike to me, and we are hearing constant calls for a General Strike, so it would be normal to assume that's what you were talking about.
I responded with my standard response to Europeans who don't understand that the work environment is far different in America, and a General Strike simply won't work, for numerous reasons.
In America, we have to know our enemy, and customize our protests to match. Right now, we view our enemy as clowns, which they are, but they see themselves as badass bullies, and nothing pisses off bullies more than laughing in their faces, and proving to them that you aren't afraid of them. Intimidation is their biggest weapon, and if that doesn't work, they usually have nothing to back it up.
They want us frightened, sad, intimidated, obedient. So showing MAGA that we don't fear them, that we think they are huge stupid losers, is an enormous psychological blow, to people with very damaged, very fragile psyches. These are people with massive mental illnesses and personality disorders, who think that their stolen MIGHT, which they have no idea how to wield, should be enough to make us obey. Instead of being intimidated, their enemy is throwing No Kings rallies that grow bigger and bigger, and is scaring the shit out of THEM.
They think we should be frightened of them, and we are literally laughing in their faces, and scaring them in return. Can you imagine how apoplectic they must get in the halls of the West Wing when they watch that video? I'd love to be there for it. I'll bet Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller gets really savage!
In the future, if MAGA decides, in their virtuosic incompetence, that it's time to start shooting protesters en masse, then the fun stops, and we will apply a different kind of resistance. Hopefully, we never make it past this humiliation stage.
I'm not European, but I get your point about each country having a different political system. What works in one country may not work in another. But what is common among most countries is a shared economic system. Whoever your politicians are, whatever they claim to believe, the vast majority of them are the pawns of the billionaires. Now, going for the politicians might get some results. Those individual politicians might lose the next election, or get kicked from their parties. But if you want long-term change, you'll have to target their owners. Make 'line go down'. For that, your protests will need to hit their infrastructure. Of course, whether you want to do this, and whether the risks are worth the rewards, are for you to decide.
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