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Trump administration to prioritise seeking death penalty, use firing squads

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  • S sulfidedisburseangledafternoontipper@piefed.blahaj.zone

    This argument is specious. It implies that there's an ethical way to engage in any imaginable act and ignores the possibility of the existence of acts which may never be ethical under any circumstance. This isn't a question of whether someone has "learned this shit." You've created a tautology re: the existence of an ethical means to all ends. One doesn't need to accept Kant's Categorical Imperative to believe that some acts can never be ethical.

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    givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    ignores the possibility of the existence of acts which may never be ethical under any circumstance.

    Name 1, and I bet I can justify it ethically.

    Like, "if you don't do ____, then superman blows up the sun" is the obvious one, but depending on what you say, I can dial back some.

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    • hellsbelle@sh.itjust.worksH hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

      The administration of United States President Donald Trump has announced plans to expand the use of the federal death penalty, including through the deployment of firing squads.

      The announcement on Friday was part of a policy document issued by the Department of Justice, setting out the legal argument for various methods of execution.

      It touted steps for “restoring and strengthening” the death penalty as integral to the pursuit of justice.

      “The Department of Justice acted to restore its solemn duty to seek, obtain, and implement lawful capital sentences — clearing the way for the Department to carry out executions once death-sentenced inmates have exhausted their appeals,” the Justice Department said in a news release.

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      chaoticentropy@feddit.uk
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      Nothing should be a clearer indication that the death penalty should not exist than lunatics like him controlling it.

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      • chaoticentropy@feddit.ukC chaoticentropy@feddit.uk

        Nothing should be a clearer indication that the death penalty should not exist than lunatics like him controlling it.

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        hubertmanne@piefed.social
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        also that countries that work to reduce violence like this and disparity is actually advancing. theory crafting societies of violence is just never going to work out in any long term way.

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        • hellsbelle@sh.itjust.worksH hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

          The administration of United States President Donald Trump has announced plans to expand the use of the federal death penalty, including through the deployment of firing squads.

          The announcement on Friday was part of a policy document issued by the Department of Justice, setting out the legal argument for various methods of execution.

          It touted steps for “restoring and strengthening” the death penalty as integral to the pursuit of justice.

          “The Department of Justice acted to restore its solemn duty to seek, obtain, and implement lawful capital sentences — clearing the way for the Department to carry out executions once death-sentenced inmates have exhausted their appeals,” the Justice Department said in a news release.

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          mannimarco@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Seems on brand

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          • J jtrek@startrek.website

            I hope this is foreshadowing for the trump regime being executed as war criminals.

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            cmbabul@slrpnk.net
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            Firing squads are too clean, I want gallows, I want gallows run by someone who ain’t any count at running a gallows, so they all die in terrible ways

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            • hellsbelle@sh.itjust.worksH hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

              The administration of United States President Donald Trump has announced plans to expand the use of the federal death penalty, including through the deployment of firing squads.

              The announcement on Friday was part of a policy document issued by the Department of Justice, setting out the legal argument for various methods of execution.

              It touted steps for “restoring and strengthening” the death penalty as integral to the pursuit of justice.

              “The Department of Justice acted to restore its solemn duty to seek, obtain, and implement lawful capital sentences — clearing the way for the Department to carry out executions once death-sentenced inmates have exhausted their appeals,” the Justice Department said in a news release.

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              wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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              #66

              I warned about this before the election. People thought I was crazy...

              Republicans have literally been talking about this for years...

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              • C cmbabul@slrpnk.net

                Firing squads are too clean, I want gallows, I want gallows run by someone who ain’t any count at running a gallows, so they all die in terrible ways

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                jtrek@startrek.website
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                I think I read that some WW2 Nazi wanted to be killed by firing squad after Nuremberg, but they told him no. Firing squads are for soldiers. Hanging is for criminals, so he would hang.

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                • hellsbelle@sh.itjust.worksH hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

                  The administration of United States President Donald Trump has announced plans to expand the use of the federal death penalty, including through the deployment of firing squads.

                  The announcement on Friday was part of a policy document issued by the Department of Justice, setting out the legal argument for various methods of execution.

                  It touted steps for “restoring and strengthening” the death penalty as integral to the pursuit of justice.

                  “The Department of Justice acted to restore its solemn duty to seek, obtain, and implement lawful capital sentences — clearing the way for the Department to carry out executions once death-sentenced inmates have exhausted their appeals,” the Justice Department said in a news release.

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                  iamcanadian@piefed.ca
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                  Searching for ways to go as low as possible, this orange administration. Very creative.

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                  • leoj@piefed.socialL leoj@piefed.social

                    yeah but the realization for large portions of the population is what is new, although I agree that it has always been just marketing!

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                    badgermurphy@lemmy.world
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                    Αυτή η δημοσίευση έχει διαγραφεί!
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                    • C cmbabul@slrpnk.net

                      Firing squads are too clean, I want gallows, I want gallows run by someone who ain’t any count at running a gallows, so they all die in terrible ways

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                      reachminusone@lemmy.zip
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                      Sounds like we need to resurrect this guy. He was allegedly pretty terrible at his job, and several of the individuals he hanged did not die a quick death.

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                      • hellsbelle@sh.itjust.worksH hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

                        The administration of United States President Donald Trump has announced plans to expand the use of the federal death penalty, including through the deployment of firing squads.

                        The announcement on Friday was part of a policy document issued by the Department of Justice, setting out the legal argument for various methods of execution.

                        It touted steps for “restoring and strengthening” the death penalty as integral to the pursuit of justice.

                        “The Department of Justice acted to restore its solemn duty to seek, obtain, and implement lawful capital sentences — clearing the way for the Department to carry out executions once death-sentenced inmates have exhausted their appeals,” the Justice Department said in a news release.

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                        ragingrobot@lemmy.world
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                        #71

                        I hope he does this, then the next president comes in and trump gets sentenced to death for treason lol.

                        Unlikely but a nice dream

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                        • hellsbelle@sh.itjust.worksH hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

                          The administration of United States President Donald Trump has announced plans to expand the use of the federal death penalty, including through the deployment of firing squads.

                          The announcement on Friday was part of a policy document issued by the Department of Justice, setting out the legal argument for various methods of execution.

                          It touted steps for “restoring and strengthening” the death penalty as integral to the pursuit of justice.

                          “The Department of Justice acted to restore its solemn duty to seek, obtain, and implement lawful capital sentences — clearing the way for the Department to carry out executions once death-sentenced inmates have exhausted their appeals,” the Justice Department said in a news release.

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                          formfiller@lemmy.world
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                          Can we start with the pedophiles?

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                          • R reachminusone@lemmy.zip

                            Sounds like we need to resurrect this guy. He was allegedly pretty terrible at his job, and several of the individuals he hanged did not die a quick death.

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                            cmbabul@slrpnk.net
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                            That is who I was thinking of lol

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                            • F formfiller@lemmy.world

                              Can we start with the pedophiles?

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                              some_designer_dude@lemmy.world
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                              Sure, but only the poor ones.

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                              • G givesomefucks@lemmy.world

                                I mean...

                                There's completely painless ways to die.

                                That's what the whole assisted suicide thing is in civilized countries.

                                The "problem" is, that's completely painless, you just go to sleep. And the people who want this, want it to be a painful gruesome death.

                                It's not justice or even removing an uncontrollable element, it's vengeance. And vengeance has to be painful.

                                There's nothing stopping an ethical death penalty except the ethics of the people implementing

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                                autistomephisto@lemmy.world
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                                And the people who want this, want it to be a painful gruesome death.

                                Yeah. If done correctly, a bullet to the head is quick and painless, as in, you are dead before your body has recognized that you've been shot.

                                But the people who want this want suffering, so likely firing squads will be ordered to hit body parts that will not result in instant, painless death but rather a gruesome and agonizing death from shock and blood loss.

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                                • theacharnian@lemmy.caT theacharnian@lemmy.ca

                                  I'm an atheist and I know not to subsume all of Christianity under white evangelicalism.

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                                  enkrod@feddit.org
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                                  Yeah, I think all religion is superstition and all superstition is a negative force on humanity, but even I think that some religions and denominations are worse than others. And yes, evangelicism is among the very worst.

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                                  • hellsbelle@sh.itjust.worksH hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

                                    The administration of United States President Donald Trump has announced plans to expand the use of the federal death penalty, including through the deployment of firing squads.

                                    The announcement on Friday was part of a policy document issued by the Department of Justice, setting out the legal argument for various methods of execution.

                                    It touted steps for “restoring and strengthening” the death penalty as integral to the pursuit of justice.

                                    “The Department of Justice acted to restore its solemn duty to seek, obtain, and implement lawful capital sentences — clearing the way for the Department to carry out executions once death-sentenced inmates have exhausted their appeals,” the Justice Department said in a news release.

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                                    w3dd1e@lemmy.zip
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                                    He means Death Squads. Every Republican accusation was an admission of guilt.

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                                    • hellsbelle@sh.itjust.worksH hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

                                      The administration of United States President Donald Trump has announced plans to expand the use of the federal death penalty, including through the deployment of firing squads.

                                      The announcement on Friday was part of a policy document issued by the Department of Justice, setting out the legal argument for various methods of execution.

                                      It touted steps for “restoring and strengthening” the death penalty as integral to the pursuit of justice.

                                      “The Department of Justice acted to restore its solemn duty to seek, obtain, and implement lawful capital sentences — clearing the way for the Department to carry out executions once death-sentenced inmates have exhausted their appeals,” the Justice Department said in a news release.

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                                      800xl@lemmy.world
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                                      Let's start with them.

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                                      • R ragingrobot@lemmy.world

                                        I hope he does this, then the next president comes in and trump gets sentenced to death for treason lol.

                                        Unlikely but a nice dream

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                                        mbech@feddit.dk
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                                        I have absolutely no faith anyone will ever give these psychos any consequenses, especially not any democrat. That would mean they themselves would be open to consequenses, and that simply won't do for the ruling class. The worst that is ever going to happen to Trump through legal and peaceful means, is that he'll be sentenced to house arrest at Mar-a-lago, and even that is doubtful. Any other punishment will have to be done by the people.

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                                        • G givesomefucks@lemmy.world

                                          I mean...

                                          There's completely painless ways to die.

                                          That's what the whole assisted suicide thing is in civilized countries.

                                          The "problem" is, that's completely painless, you just go to sleep. And the people who want this, want it to be a painful gruesome death.

                                          It's not justice or even removing an uncontrollable element, it's vengeance. And vengeance has to be painful.

                                          There's nothing stopping an ethical death penalty except the ethics of the people implementing

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                                          enkrod@feddit.org
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                                          The people who manufacture the drugs that make you go peacefully have embargoed the USA, because they don't want their drugs used for state sanctioned murder.

                                          • Manufacturer Bans: Pharmaceutical companies, including Pfizer, Baxter International, B. Braun Medical, Fresenius Kabi, and Johnson & Johnson, have established policies to stop their products from being used in capital punishment.

                                          • EU Export Restrictions: In 2011, the European Union passed anti-torture measures that prohibit the trade of goods used for capital punishment.

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