Proton CEO warns global age verification push will mean "the death of anonymity online"
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The guy in the thumbnail looks like a mix between Bob Saget and Jimmy O. Yang.
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Ah yes, Proton, the company infamous for providing anonymity online, and totally never rugpulling their customers everytime the swiss government rolls up with a search warrant.
But in this instance, are they wrong because of all that?
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That’s the plan. It’s about control.
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I looked at the technology used by the EU age verification.
You prove your age to the app by scanning the NFC in your passport. No government servers exist.
When a site requests your age, you return only a "yes I'm older than 18", proven by your passport. Not your age, just that you're older.
I think it preserves privacy pretty well.
I don't think that it will protect children, but I do think that it preserves privacy.
Kids will borrow their parents passports, but also their parents logins.
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This is interesting, I think people should be aware of and check out i2p as well. I actually don't use it (because there's not that much of a community yet
) but I run a i2p router to support the network, that bitch does ~15TB a month in bandwidth. I think the main use of the network is torrenting currently.But with governments and tech companies getting so oppressive hopefully i2p and other similar systems can flourish into the new free net.
Same, but with Yggdrasil. We need to keep these encrypted layer networks going and spread them through the fediverse to gain popularity. 1000% SCREW Better OR Worse. Mirror your site to all of them!
You can run XMPP on yggdrasil and i2p, torrents, host all manner of things, it's quite impressive.
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That’s the plan. It’s about control.
I’m glad someone else sees it. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills every day lately. People don’t give a single shit, will minimize the danger and do anything they can to give up their rights, time and time again.
A few of us see it, sadly too few to matter.
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…and extend the ability of governments and especially corporations to control what you see and hear. From ads to what “facts” they want you to see.
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Pre-tech phone books were the death of anonymity and no one seemed to care. Now that capitalism has become more refined when extracting coin from the populace, everything has a price.
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I’m glad someone else sees it. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills every day lately. People don’t give a single shit, will minimize the danger and do anything they can to give up their rights, time and time again.
A few of us see it, sadly too few to matter.
Whats wrong with you?! Why aren't you thinking of the children??!
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We should not platform idiots just because they state the obvious, when they promote bullshit out of the other side of their mouth.
Edit: removed the link because news site is grabby. Look it up, nerds.
Edit2: maybe this link is better idk https://techstory.in/proton-mail-faces-backlash-over-claims-of-political-neutrality-amid-ceos-praise-for-republican-party/
Glad to finally see the tide turning here. The ability of the Lemmyverse to ignore the deep seated asshole within Yen and praise Proton has always bothered me. He's not as bad as scumbags like Tim Apple and Zuckerberg but when things are shiny on the outside but rotten at their core, it's best to avoid.
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Pre-tech phone books were the death of anonymity and no one seemed to care. Now that capitalism has become more refined when extracting coin from the populace, everything has a price.
Pre-tech phone books could be opted out, and they didn’t track your every move, shopping habits and where you were every second of the day.
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Ah yes, Proton, the company infamous for providing anonymity online, and totally never rugpulling their customers everytime the swiss government rolls up with a search warrant.
They have always been very clear that they will comply with Swiss law, they have never said otherwise. They chose Switzerland to be based out of due to existing legal protections there are better than most countries. And they limit what they hand over to the legal minimum, again something they have been clear about.
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I looked at the technology used by the EU age verification.
You prove your age to the app by scanning the NFC in your passport. No government servers exist.
When a site requests your age, you return only a "yes I'm older than 18", proven by your passport. Not your age, just that you're older.
I think it preserves privacy pretty well.
I don't think that it will protect children, but I do think that it preserves privacy.
can you please link to the source code of the app?
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The guy in the picture also endorsed the political party most associated with age verification laws.
But this is Lemmy, where we don't criticize Proton!
Age verification is truly a bipartisan effort. California, Colorado, Illinois, New York…
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So if you don't accept this "age verification patch" to your OS (and you know they won't stop with that), I assume that any attempt to connect to a website that does this check will fail and you won't be able to connect to it, right?
Well, I am just FINE with that. If I can't connect to a website, I will treat it like any other broken website and move on to another one. This is how the Internet routes around damage.
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The good times are gone, fascism is back.
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Whats wrong with you?! Why aren't you thinking of the children??!
already been accused/harassed on here of being pro-pedo for not being pro age-verification.
it's always the yahoo idiot opinions that gain political traction, and rarely the common sense ones.
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if they want to censor and monitor the internet, its time to start building on a new one that's private and encrypted by default: https://reticulum.network/
Either that or don't play by their rules. If I refuse this patch and I can't connect to a website because of this check, I'll will just treat that wesite like any other broken website and move on to another one
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Pre-tech phone books could be opted out, and they didn’t track your every move, shopping habits and where you were every second of the day.
Now you're talking sales, not anonymity. But I agree.
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They have always been very clear that they will comply with Swiss law, they have never said otherwise. They chose Switzerland to be based out of due to existing legal protections there are better than most countries. And they limit what they hand over to the legal minimum, again something they have been clear about.
This is right on the homepage
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